The purpose is purely to signal a point of view on the state of testing in the codebase, some shortcomings of the architecture, and what a few of us are doing and further planning to do about it. Kind of a "prompt discussion if anyone has a wild allergic reaction to it, or encourage collaboration if they have a wild positive reaction" sort of thing. Maybe a spiritual "CEP-lite". :)
I would advocate that we be very selective about the topics on which we strive for a consistent shared point of view as a project. There are a lot of us and we all have different experiences and different points of view that lead to different perspectives and value systems. Agreeing on discrete definitions of done, 100% - that's table stakes. But agreeing on how we get there, my personal take is we'd all be well served to spend our energy Doing the Work and expressing these complementary positions rather than trying to bend everyone to one consistent point of view. Let a thousand flowers bloom, as someone wise recently told me. :) That said, this work will be happening in an open source repo with a permissive license (almost certainly ASLv2), likely using github issues, so anyone that wants to collaborate on it would be most welcome. I can make sure Gianluca, Charles, Berenguer, and others bring that to this ML thread once we've started open-sourcing things. On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 4:25 AM Benedict Elliott Smith <bened...@apache.org> wrote: > It does raise the bar to critiquing the document though, but perhaps > that's also a feature. > > Perhaps we can first discuss the purpose of the document? It seems to be a > mix of mission statement for the project, as well as your own near term > roadmap? Should we interpret it only as an advertisement of your own view > of the problems the project faces, as a start to dialogue, or is the > purpose to solicit feedback? > > Would it be helpful to work towards a similar document the whole community > endorses, with a shared mission statement, and a (perhaps loosely defined) > shared roadmap? > > I'd like to call out some specific things in the document that I am > personally excited by: the project has long lacked a coherent, repeatable > approach to performance testing and regressions; combined with easy > visualisation tools this would be a huge win. The FQL sampling with data > distribution inference is also something that has been discussed privately > elsewhere, and would be hugely advantageous to the former, so that we can > discover representative workloads. > > Thanks for taking the time to put this together, and start this dialogue. > > > On 13/07/2020, 23:41, "Joshua McKenzie" <jmcken...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > Can you please allow comments on the doc so we can leave feedback. > > > > > > Doc is view only; figured we could keep this to the ML. > > > That's a feature, not a bug. > > Happy to chat here or on slack w/anyone. This is a complex topic so > long-form or high bandwidth communication is a better fit than gdoc > comments. They rapidly become unwieldy. > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 6:17 PM sankalp kohli <kohlisank...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Can you please allow comments on the doc so we can leave feedback. > > > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 2:16 PM Joshua McKenzie < > jmcken...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Link: > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ktuBWpD2NLurB9PUvmbwGgrXsgnyU58koOseZAfaFBQ/edit# > > > > > > > > > Myself and a few other contributors are working with this point of > view > > as > > > our frame of where we're going to work on improving testing on the > > project. > > > I figured it might be useful to foster collaboration more broadly > in the > > > community as well as provide people with the opportunity to > discuss work > > > they're doing they may not yet have had a chance to bring up or > open > > > source. While fallout is already open-sourced, expect the schema > > anonymizer > > > and some of the cassandra-diff + nosqlbench framework effort to be > > > open-sourced / openly worked on soon. Anyone that's interested in > > > collaborating, that would be highly welcome. > > > > > > Doc is view only; figured we could keep this to the ML. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > ~Josh > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > >
