Thanks for the links Benedict!

Been reading the links and see the following points being made

*) enabling the spark process would lower the process to enter the project
*) high level discussions should be in JIRA [1]
*) not desirable to annotation JIRA and Github; should only annotate JIRA
(reviewer, labels, etc.)
*) given the multi branch nature, pull requires are not intuitive [2]
*) merging is problematic and should keep the current merge process
*) commits@ is not usable with PRs
*) commits@ is better because of PRs
*) people are more willing to nit-pick with PRs, less likely with current
process [3]
*) opens potential to "prevent commits that don't pass the tests" [4]
*) prefer the current process
http://cassandra.apache.org/doc/latest/development/patches.html [5]
*) current process is annoying since you have to take the link in github
and attach to JIRA for each comment in review
*) missed notifications, more trust in commits@
*) if someone rewrites history, comments could be hard to see
*) its better to leave comments in the source code so people don't need to
lookup github

Here is how i see some of the points

1) I agree with the point that the high level discussions should be in
JIRA; PRs are better at specific review and offer no real benefit over JIRA
for larger structural changes
2) there are different patterns with multiple branches as well, but some of
it is possible to codify and include in CI.  For example, you could take
the diff, attempt to apply to 2.2 (maybe if [dtest] in commit?) and forward
merge; of any conflicts are found, could annotate JIRA that the change is
complex and may be best to submit multiple PRs.  Assuming we want something
like this, it is also possible to run the tests against those branches as
well.  I am not saying we do this, but saying that it is possible to
improve or solve this problem, so doesn't appear a blocker to me.
3) by marking it easier to comment i can definitely see this happen, but
don't see this as a reason not to.  I find that you are more willing to
actually talk about small sections of the code in PR than in other forms
and that its easier to track.  One of the things i see now is that the
conversation moves to slack, so is it better not happening, happening in
slack, or happening in github?
4) This is actually why i started this thread.  I created a patch a while
back that passed review, got merged, and has been failing the build ever
since.  I would like to make it more clear that code is likely to do this
or not.
5) The link documents the process as submitting patches generate by "git
format-patch", which i was told not to do my first patch

Think i summarized all I saw.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 2:30 PM Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> wrote:

> I personally use Github PRs to discuss the changes if there is feedback on
> the code. The discussion does get linked with the JIRA ticket. However,
> committing is manual.
>
> Dinesh
>
> > On Jan 22, 2020, at 2:20 PM, David Capwell <dcapw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > When submitting or reviewing a change in JIRA I notice that we have three
> > main patterns for doing this: link branch, link diff, and link GitHub
> pull
> > request (PR); I wanted to bring up the idea of switching over to GitHub
> > pull requests as the norm.
> >
> >
> > Why should we do this?  The main reasons I can think of are: consistency
> > within the project, common pattern outside and inside Apache (not a new
> > process for new members to learn),
> >
> > PRs are easier to review and comment on (much easier than linking lines
> in
> > a branch), Github and JIRA integration is already present so all
> > conversations will be added to the JIRA work log, and could be linked
> with
> > Jenkins to trigger builds and tests and to report the status into JIRA.
> >
> >
> > How would one start to do this?
> >
> >
> >
> >   1. Include the JIRA link in a commit message (example:
> >   CASSANDRA-<number> : message)
> >   2. Create pull request (when creating the branch, the git message
> >   provides a link to create a pull request)
> >
> >
> > That is it, by doing those two steps JIRA will be updated with all Github
> > conversations, Jenkins could be notified and start building and report
> back
> > to JIRA.
> >
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> >
> > References:
> >
> >   - https://www.apache.org/dev/svngit2jira.html
>
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