I support adding back pressure based on client memory limits to the
bookkeeper client.

My biggest concern is how the back pressure is propagated to the
client application. If I am reading the draft implementation
correctly, it is via a blocking operation on the calling thread for
the `BookieClientImpl#addEntry` method.

In my use case (the Pulsar broker), I think a blocking implementation
will make this feature very hard to use. One quick thought is that
maybe some kind of event or listener could meet the requirements
without also blocking an application? The implementation could be
something similar to Netty's channel writability events. Then, client
applications could reactively get notified of the bookie client's
state. Non blocking back pressure allows for client applications to
continue processing other

Additionally, I think client memory limits should affect the bookie
client reading from the inbound connection. Otherwise, the bookie
client could dispatch many read requests and then end up filling up
memory when the requests arrive in the client's direct memory. When
the bookie is starting to exceed its memory consumption, it'd be
beneficial to stop reading from the connection and to let the TCP
connection propagate back pressure to the server. In this case, we
would need a reactive solution since it is an anti-pattern to block on
a netty event loop.

Thanks,
Michael

On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 4:36 AM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yong,
>
> Il giorno mer 28 set 2022 alle ore 10:23 Yong Zhang
> <zhangyong1025...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >
> > We have improved the memory issue with backpressure with PR
> > https://github.com/apache/bookkeeper/pull/3324
> >
> > The backpressure way can prevent there have too many Add requests
> > pending to the client and waiting for the response. It makes the add
> > requests
> > fail fast, so if the channel is not writable, it will fail the request as
> > soon as
> > possible and then release the memory.
> >
> > But that depends on the time. If your throughput is very smooth, and you
> > have enough memory for the bookie client. With backpressure, it would work
> > fine.
> > If you have a huge adds to the bookie in a very short time, it acquires a
> > lot of
> > memory, then the bookie crashed with OOM.
> > So we still need this proposal.
> >
> > I will continue to work on this. If there haven't objected, I will start a
> > VOTE later
>
> Thanks
>
> Enrico
>
> > Thanks,
> > Yong
> >
> > On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 at 19:17, r...@apache.org <ranxiaolong...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Yong:
> > >
> > > It seems to be a very useful feature. In the production environment, you
> > > can often see similar phenomena happening.
> > >
> > > +1 (non-binding)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks
> > > Xiaolong Ran
> > >
> > > Yong Zhang <y...@apache.org> 于2022年4月21日周四 18:29写道:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > The BP-51 BookKeeper client memory limits is ready for review.
> > > > The proposal is here: https://github.com/apache/bookkeeper/issues/3231
> > > > And the PR is here: https://github.com/apache/bookkeeper/pull/3139
> > > >
> > > > Please help to review this proposal.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Yong
> > > >
> > >

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