I'm +1 on helping explain what we mean by "validate the RC" since we're
really just asking users to see if their existing use cases work along with
our typical slate of tests. I don't know if offloading that work to our
active validators is the right approach though, documentation/screen share
of their specific workflow is definitely less useful than having a more
general outline of how to install the RC and things to look out for when
testing.

On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 12:55 PM Austin Bennett <aus...@apache.org> wrote:

> Great effort.  I'm also interested in streamlining releases -- so if there
> are alot of manual tests that could be automated, would be great
> to discover and then look to address.
>
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 8:47 AM Robert Bradshaw via dev <
> dev@beam.apache.org> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> I would also strongly suggest that people try out the release against
>> their own codebases. This has the benefit of ensuring the release won't
>> break your own code when they go out, and stress-tests the new code against
>> real-world pipelines. (Ideally our own tests are all passing, and this
>> validation is automated as much as possible (though ensuring it matches our
>> documentation and works in a clean environment still has value), but
>> there's a lot of code and uses out there that we don't have access to
>> during normal Beam development.)
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 8:21 AM Svetak Sundhar via dev <
>> dev@beam.apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I’ve participated in RC testing for a few releases and have observed a
>>> bit of a knowledge gap in how releases can be tested. Given that Beam
>>> encourages contributors to vote on RC’s regardless of tenure, and that
>>> voting on an RC is a relatively low-effort, high leverage way to influence
>>> the release of the library, I propose the following:
>>>
>>> During the vote for the next release, voters can document the process
>>> they followed on a separate document, and add the link on column G here
>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qk-N5vjXvbcEk68GjbkSZTR8AGqyNUM-oLFo_ZXBpJw/edit#gid=437054928>.
>>> One step further, could be a screencast of running the test, and attaching
>>> a link of that.
>>>
>>> We can keep repeating this through releases until we have documentation
>>> for many of the different tests. We can then add these docs into the repo.
>>>
>>> I’m proposing this because I’ve gathered the following feedback from
>>> colleagues that are tangentially involved with Beam: They are interested in
>>> participating in release validation, but don’t know how to get started.
>>> Happy to hear other suggestions too, if there are any to address the
>>> above.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> Svetak Sundhar
>>>
>>>   Data Engineer
>>> s <nellywil...@google.com>vetaksund...@google.com
>>>
>>>

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