BTW, what would also really help is having the release as a Github Action
workflow, similar to Iceberg-rust:
https://github.com/apache/iceberg-rust/blob/main/.github/workflows/publish.yml

Kind regards,
Fokko

Op wo 7 aug 2024 om 18:53 schreef Fokko Driesprong <fo...@apache.org>:

> Hey xxchan,
>
> Thanks for the quick response. You're right, this is specifically for
> Rust, so sorry for the confusion. I'll raise a separate DISCUSS thread.
>
> Kind regards,
> Fokko
>
> Op wo 7 aug 2024 om 18:25 schreef xxchan <xxchan...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Fokko,
>>
>> Personally I think having a patch release for the CVE fix is totally fine.
>> But do you mean release separately for Java (like proposed here for Rust),
>> or doing a normal release for all languages?
>>
>> I'm not sure what are the current main pain points in the release
>> procedure,
>> but I guess doing the former can help save maintainers' effort, as the
>> same
>> rationale raised by Xuanwo. I think an approach that helps reduce
>> maintenance
>> effort and increase release frequency will be beneficial to the community.
>>
>> BTW, I think many people in this thread are more interested in the Rust
>> package.
>> Should we just drive another VOTE for the new release directly?
>> Besides, also want to hear Martin's input about why to cherry-pick Rust
>> PRs, and
>> what's the release plan in his mind.
>>
>> xxchan
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 10:41 PM Fokko Driesprong <fo...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hey everyone,
>> >
>> > A CVE fix has been backported
>> > <https://github.com/apache/avro/pull/2980/files> to the 1.11 branch.
>> The
>> > 1.12.0 branch drops Java 8 support, and it would be good to have a
>> version
>> > released that Java 8 users can update to. How about doing this as a
>> > separate release? It looks like
>> > <https://github.com/apache/avro/commits/branch-1.11/> there are not
>> many
>> > backports for other languages (except for Rust).
>> >
>> > Let me know your thoughts
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> > Fokko
>> >
>> > Op vr 2 aug 2024 om 10:44 schreef Renjie Liu <liurenjie1...@apache.org
>> >:
>> >
>> > > +1 to releasing Rust separately. Our experience in rust shows that it
>> > > benefits the project well and helps to grow rust version faster.
>> > Different
>> > > people have different expertise in different languages, and it's
>> > difficult
>> > > for maintainer to know understand all languages well.
>> > >
>> > > On 2024/08/01 13:38:58 Xuanwo wrote:
>> > > > Hello, everyone
>> > > >
>> > > > I start this thread to discussion if it possible to release package
>> > > seperately, especially for some new language implemeantions like rust
>> > which
>> > > is still at pre 1.0 stage.
>> > > >
>> > > > I understand this doesn't align with the community's current
>> practices,
>> > > and I didn't thoroughly research whether this has been discussed
>> before.
>> > > >
>> > > > But I really think there are many benefits for this:
>> > > >
>> > > > - Users can receive updates more quickly and regularly. They don't
>> need
>> > > to wait for the entire avro project to release.
>> > > > - Rust implementers no longer need to cherry-pick commits,
>> > significantly
>> > > reducing their workload. The release process could be as simple as
>> tag at
>> > > main branch, vote and let CI to do publish.
>> > > > - Given the current low activity of Avro Rust, most releases for
>> Avro
>> > > are merely dependency updates. We can save some effort by aligning
>> with
>> > > avro-java's own release schedule.
>> > > > - The last point, which I believe is the most important, could
>> attract
>> > > more Avro Rust users to develop at upstream. The rust community has
>> built
>> > > avro[1], avro-rs[2], rsgen-avro[3], serde-avro-bytes[4],
>> > > serde_avro_fast[5], avro-schema[6], struct-from-avro[7],
>> serde-avro[8].
>> > By
>> > > combining our efforts, we can significantly accelerate improvements in
>> > Avro
>> > > Rust.
>> > > >
>> > > > There are also some risks:
>> > > >
>> > > > - Implementing these changes requires extra effort from the
>> community.
>> > > > - Avro Rust releases may be less frequent because it doesn't keep up
>> > > with the main Avro repository.
>> > > > - Release rust seperately doesn't change the fact that PMC members
>> > still
>> > > need to do the work.
>> > > >
>> > > > I believe most issues can be addressed:
>> > > >
>> > > > - I have implemented the whole rust release process for OpenDAL[9]
>> and
>> > > iceberg-rust[10]. I am also willing to help build the Rust release
>> > process
>> > > for Avro.
>> > > > - That's possible, but I believe once we can get more developers
>> > > involved in developing Avro Rust, we can release more frequently
>> instead.
>> > > > - That's true, but verify rust release should be super simple with
>> > > correct tools. My experience in this area can be helpful.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > What do you think?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > [1]: https://crates.io/crates/avro
>> > > > [2]: https://crates.io/crates/avro-rs
>> > > > [3]:https://crates.io/crates/rsgen-avro
>> > > > [4]: https://crates.io/crates/serde-avro-bytes
>> > > > [5]: https://crates.io/crates/serde_avro_fast
>> > > > [6]: https://crates.io/crates/avro-schema
>> > > > [7]: https://crates.io/crates/struct-from-avro
>> > > > [8]: https://crates.io/crates/serde-avro
>> > > > [9]: https://opendal.apache.org/community/release/
>> > > > [10]: https://rust.iceberg.apache.org/release.html
>> > > >
>> > > > Xuanwo
>> > > >
>> > > > https://xuanwo.io/
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>

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