Hey xxchan,

Thanks for the quick response. You're right, this is specifically for Rust,
so sorry for the confusion. I'll raise a separate DISCUSS thread.

Kind regards,
Fokko

Op wo 7 aug 2024 om 18:25 schreef xxchan <xxchan...@gmail.com>:

> Hi Fokko,
>
> Personally I think having a patch release for the CVE fix is totally fine.
> But do you mean release separately for Java (like proposed here for Rust),
> or doing a normal release for all languages?
>
> I'm not sure what are the current main pain points in the release
> procedure,
> but I guess doing the former can help save maintainers' effort, as the same
> rationale raised by Xuanwo. I think an approach that helps reduce
> maintenance
> effort and increase release frequency will be beneficial to the community.
>
> BTW, I think many people in this thread are more interested in the Rust
> package.
> Should we just drive another VOTE for the new release directly?
> Besides, also want to hear Martin's input about why to cherry-pick Rust
> PRs, and
> what's the release plan in his mind.
>
> xxchan
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 10:41 PM Fokko Driesprong <fo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hey everyone,
> >
> > A CVE fix has been backported
> > <https://github.com/apache/avro/pull/2980/files> to the 1.11 branch. The
> > 1.12.0 branch drops Java 8 support, and it would be good to have a
> version
> > released that Java 8 users can update to. How about doing this as a
> > separate release? It looks like
> > <https://github.com/apache/avro/commits/branch-1.11/> there are not many
> > backports for other languages (except for Rust).
> >
> > Let me know your thoughts
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Fokko
> >
> > Op vr 2 aug 2024 om 10:44 schreef Renjie Liu <liurenjie1...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > +1 to releasing Rust separately. Our experience in rust shows that it
> > > benefits the project well and helps to grow rust version faster.
> > Different
> > > people have different expertise in different languages, and it's
> > difficult
> > > for maintainer to know understand all languages well.
> > >
> > > On 2024/08/01 13:38:58 Xuanwo wrote:
> > > > Hello, everyone
> > > >
> > > > I start this thread to discussion if it possible to release package
> > > seperately, especially for some new language implemeantions like rust
> > which
> > > is still at pre 1.0 stage.
> > > >
> > > > I understand this doesn't align with the community's current
> practices,
> > > and I didn't thoroughly research whether this has been discussed
> before.
> > > >
> > > > But I really think there are many benefits for this:
> > > >
> > > > - Users can receive updates more quickly and regularly. They don't
> need
> > > to wait for the entire avro project to release.
> > > > - Rust implementers no longer need to cherry-pick commits,
> > significantly
> > > reducing their workload. The release process could be as simple as tag
> at
> > > main branch, vote and let CI to do publish.
> > > > - Given the current low activity of Avro Rust, most releases for Avro
> > > are merely dependency updates. We can save some effort by aligning with
> > > avro-java's own release schedule.
> > > > - The last point, which I believe is the most important, could
> attract
> > > more Avro Rust users to develop at upstream. The rust community has
> built
> > > avro[1], avro-rs[2], rsgen-avro[3], serde-avro-bytes[4],
> > > serde_avro_fast[5], avro-schema[6], struct-from-avro[7], serde-avro[8].
> > By
> > > combining our efforts, we can significantly accelerate improvements in
> > Avro
> > > Rust.
> > > >
> > > > There are also some risks:
> > > >
> > > > - Implementing these changes requires extra effort from the
> community.
> > > > - Avro Rust releases may be less frequent because it doesn't keep up
> > > with the main Avro repository.
> > > > - Release rust seperately doesn't change the fact that PMC members
> > still
> > > need to do the work.
> > > >
> > > > I believe most issues can be addressed:
> > > >
> > > > - I have implemented the whole rust release process for OpenDAL[9]
> and
> > > iceberg-rust[10]. I am also willing to help build the Rust release
> > process
> > > for Avro.
> > > > - That's possible, but I believe once we can get more developers
> > > involved in developing Avro Rust, we can release more frequently
> instead.
> > > > - That's true, but verify rust release should be super simple with
> > > correct tools. My experience in this area can be helpful.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What do you think?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [1]: https://crates.io/crates/avro
> > > > [2]: https://crates.io/crates/avro-rs
> > > > [3]:https://crates.io/crates/rsgen-avro
> > > > [4]: https://crates.io/crates/serde-avro-bytes
> > > > [5]: https://crates.io/crates/serde_avro_fast
> > > > [6]: https://crates.io/crates/avro-schema
> > > > [7]: https://crates.io/crates/struct-from-avro
> > > > [8]: https://crates.io/crates/serde-avro
> > > > [9]: https://opendal.apache.org/community/release/
> > > > [10]: https://rust.iceberg.apache.org/release.html
> > > >
> > > > Xuanwo
> > > >
> > > > https://xuanwo.io/
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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