Hi Chris, Yes, I was referring to the documentation sprint. Looks like it was the single day event but the unfortunate use of sprint to refer to it might confuse me with actual 2-weeks sprint. Mea culpa jumping the gun there =(
I started seeing sprint tags on the Aurora JIRA tickets without any discussions in dev@ list about it so I thought there will be a 2-week sprint dedicated for documentation that matches Twitter sprint schedule. Looking forward for the DISCUSS thread about the sprint use in Aurora JIRA =) - Henry On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Chris Lambert <clamb...@twitter.com.invalid> wrote: > Hi Henry, > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> >> Thanks for your reply. >> >> I have no problem about using sprint to help manage JIRA issues for >> Twitter development on Aurora. >> However, the Aurora PPMCs should not use Twitter specific sprints into >> development discussions in dev@ list nor IRC chat. >> In ASF, email is the de facto where decisions made and with Sprint >> some of the decisions are made during daily standup which only >> exclusive to Twitter. >> > > I'm a little confused... I don't think we've ever done this. Perhaps > you're referring to the "doc sprint > <http://markmail.org/message/kndtd32hj6xr3kek>" that we held recently? If > that's the case, it was just an unfortunate choice of words because that > effort was just a single day focused on docs, totally unrelated to JIRA > sprints. Or maybe I'm missing some other situation? > > >> I know Mesos also projects Twitter sprint planning into it's JIRA but >> as I remember they do not use the sprints into dev release planning. >> If they do then please let me know so we could let Mesos PMCs know about >> it. >> > > Nope, the Mesos team follows the Apache Way for its official releases. > > So in summary, I think you should do this: >> 1. Send DISCUSS email to dev@ list to describe how Twitter use sprint >> to manage Aurora JIRA ticket. >> 2. If other organizations wants to join then lets find a way to agree >> upon which sprint could be fit into a release. >> >> The most important is transparencies on process and remember Aurora is >> under ASF incubator and no longer with Twitter. >> Hope you guys understand. >> > > Of course. Thanks for keeping us honest. > > Chris > > >> >> Thanks, >> >> - Henry >> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Chris Lambert >> <clamb...@twitter.com.invalid> wrote: >> > Hi Henry, >> > >> > Thanks for bringing this up. We did start using JIRA Scrum Boards to >> > organize our work about a month or so ago. This organizes work at >> Twitter, >> > but will eventually provide transparency to the community (once there are >> > many contributors). In fact, we invite other companies/entities to >> follow >> > the same process to provide transparency, if they're interested. I'll go >> > ahead and start a thread explaining this, and will also highlight some >> > alternatives. >> > >> > Can you (or any of the other mentors) provide pointers to any other >> > projects who may be doing something similar, or even to any general >> > documentation on development process? (I'm sure I could find some, but >> as >> > I've learned from various folks at Apache over the last couple of years, >> > some are better examples than others.) >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Chris >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Re-ping, just in case the email did not get send >> >> >> >> - Henry >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Henry Saputra < >> henry.sapu...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> > HI Guys, >> >> > >> >> > I start noticing that Aurora jira has sprint tagged to the issue. >> >> > >> >> > Kevin also has sent email about documentation sprint happening. >> >> > >> >> > However I dont think I ever recall explicit discussion about having >> >> > sprint-like mode to drive development for Aurora. >> >> > >> >> > Seemed like internal Twitter sprint is being brought into Apache >> >> > Aurora dev cycle? >> >> > >> >> > To be clear, I am not against such sprint dev model in Aurora but it >> >> > needs to be explicitly discuss in the dev list instead of implicitly >> >> > decided at Twitter for the sake of openness and the Apache way. >> >> > >> >> > - Henry >> >> >>