Hi Henry, On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Chris, > > Thanks for your reply. > > I have no problem about using sprint to help manage JIRA issues for > Twitter development on Aurora. > However, the Aurora PPMCs should not use Twitter specific sprints into > development discussions in dev@ list nor IRC chat. > In ASF, email is the de facto where decisions made and with Sprint > some of the decisions are made during daily standup which only > exclusive to Twitter. > I'm a little confused... I don't think we've ever done this. Perhaps you're referring to the "doc sprint <http://markmail.org/message/kndtd32hj6xr3kek>" that we held recently? If that's the case, it was just an unfortunate choice of words because that effort was just a single day focused on docs, totally unrelated to JIRA sprints. Or maybe I'm missing some other situation? > I know Mesos also projects Twitter sprint planning into it's JIRA but > as I remember they do not use the sprints into dev release planning. > If they do then please let me know so we could let Mesos PMCs know about > it. > Nope, the Mesos team follows the Apache Way for its official releases. So in summary, I think you should do this: > 1. Send DISCUSS email to dev@ list to describe how Twitter use sprint > to manage Aurora JIRA ticket. > 2. If other organizations wants to join then lets find a way to agree > upon which sprint could be fit into a release. > > The most important is transparencies on process and remember Aurora is > under ASF incubator and no longer with Twitter. > Hope you guys understand. > Of course. Thanks for keeping us honest. Chris > > Thanks, > > - Henry > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Chris Lambert > <clamb...@twitter.com.invalid> wrote: > > Hi Henry, > > > > Thanks for bringing this up. We did start using JIRA Scrum Boards to > > organize our work about a month or so ago. This organizes work at > Twitter, > > but will eventually provide transparency to the community (once there are > > many contributors). In fact, we invite other companies/entities to > follow > > the same process to provide transparency, if they're interested. I'll go > > ahead and start a thread explaining this, and will also highlight some > > alternatives. > > > > Can you (or any of the other mentors) provide pointers to any other > > projects who may be doing something similar, or even to any general > > documentation on development process? (I'm sure I could find some, but > as > > I've learned from various folks at Apache over the last couple of years, > > some are better examples than others.) > > > > Thanks, > > Chris > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Re-ping, just in case the email did not get send > >> > >> - Henry > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Henry Saputra < > henry.sapu...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > HI Guys, > >> > > >> > I start noticing that Aurora jira has sprint tagged to the issue. > >> > > >> > Kevin also has sent email about documentation sprint happening. > >> > > >> > However I dont think I ever recall explicit discussion about having > >> > sprint-like mode to drive development for Aurora. > >> > > >> > Seemed like internal Twitter sprint is being brought into Apache > >> > Aurora dev cycle? > >> > > >> > To be clear, I am not against such sprint dev model in Aurora but it > >> > needs to be explicitly discuss in the dev list instead of implicitly > >> > decided at Twitter for the sake of openness and the Apache way. > >> > > >> > - Henry > >> >