Summary of IRC Meeting in #aurora at Mon Aug 25 18:13:08 2014: Attendees: davmclau, dnorris, lexinator, wickman, jcohen, kts, mkhutornenko, zmanji, dlester
- Preface - mesoscon - Action: davmclau to mail dev@ list about doc coverage in reviews - in-scheduler updater IRC log follows: ## Preface ## [Mon Aug 25 18:13:38 2014] <kts>: good morning folks, let's get started with roll call [Mon Aug 25 18:13:47 2014] <wickman>: aye [Mon Aug 25 18:13:49 2014] <davmclau>: here [Mon Aug 25 18:13:50 2014] <mkhutornenko>: here [Mon Aug 25 18:13:57 2014] <lexinator>: here [Mon Aug 25 18:14:16 2014] <jcohen>: here [Mon Aug 25 18:14:19 2014] <dnorris>: here [Mon Aug 25 18:14:22 2014] <zmanji>: here [Mon Aug 25 18:14:48 2014] <kts>: great, let's get started with any questions from the community [Mon Aug 25 18:15:31 2014] <kts>: are there any questions from the community? [Mon Aug 25 18:16:21 2014] <kts>: dlester: you there? [Mon Aug 25 18:16:32 2014] <dlester>: kts: yes! sorry for being a few min late [Mon Aug 25 18:16:52 2014] <kts>: sounds like there aren't ## mesoscon ## [Mon Aug 25 18:17:10 2014] <kts>: how was mesoscon? [Mon Aug 25 18:17:29 2014] <dlester>: I thought we had a great turnout; 260 attendees, over 100 companies represented [Mon Aug 25 18:17:59 2014] <kts>: are the aurora slides+talks posted anywhere? [Mon Aug 25 18:18:04 2014] <lexinator>: I did not attend but I'm hearing thumbs up from coworkers. [Mon Aug 25 18:18:20 2014] <dlester>: lexinator: good to hear! [Mon Aug 25 18:18:58 2014] <dlester>: all the talks were recorded, and will be rolled out as they are edited -- they keynotes will likely go online next week, and I'll ask if the Aurora talk can follow shortly after [Mon Aug 25 18:19:26 2014] <dlester>: In terms of slides, we'll have to ask wfarner to post them if he'd like to [Mon Aug 25 18:19:44 2014] <dlester>: they will be included in the video, of course [Mon Aug 25 18:20:05 2014] <kts>: dlester: awesome, I'm sure we can follow up with him when he gets back [Mon Aug 25 18:20:57 2014] <kts>: Did anyone else go to mesoscon? [Mon Aug 25 18:21:37 2014] <dlester>: I know wickman tstclair wfarner were there [Mon Aug 25 18:22:30 2014] <lexinator>: jaybuff attended but is not around right now. [Mon Aug 25 18:23:13 2014] <dlester>: wickman: were you hacking on Aurora at the hackathon at all? how'd that go? [Mon Aug 25 18:23:48 2014] <wickman>: I gave a mini tutorial on Aurora configuration and also talked a little bit about sla aware maintenance commands. [Mon Aug 25 18:24:13 2014] <wickman>: We also discussed topics regarding docker/aurora integration and how to make this work well we might be blocked on the libcontainerization of mesos/docker. [Mon Aug 25 18:24:54 2014] <wickman>: tarnfeld and nikita vetoshkin helped hack on the pesos bindings [Mon Aug 25 18:25:04 2014] <wickman>: that's mostly what i hacked on as well [Mon Aug 25 18:26:23 2014] <kts>: very neat [Mon Aug 25 18:26:57 2014] <wickman>: in general i got the impression that people liked aurora, but honestly had no idea about most of the features that i mentioned. [Mon Aug 25 18:27:08 2014] <wickman>: i think we may have a feature discoverability problem. [Mon Aug 25 18:28:00 2014] <davmclau>: is it worth filing a ticket to address this? [Mon Aug 25 18:28:02 2014] <dlester>: wickman: agreed, based upon what I heard folks discussing after wfarner's presentation [Mon Aug 25 18:28:22 2014] <wickman>: better tutorials / more example configuration would be useful here. e.g. there were some github pages for kafka/cassandra recipes recently iirc? [Mon Aug 25 18:28:43 2014] <wickman>: davmclau: definitely -- though i'm guessing there already are? but the fact i don't know offhand is probably the sign of a problem. [Mon Aug 25 18:30:03 2014] <davmclau>: I'll take a look for tickets, and create one if I can't find any [Mon Aug 25 18:30:43 2014] <kts>: it looks like our website is in need of a bit of love as well [Mon Aug 25 18:30:51 2014] <dlester>: kts: indeed [Mon Aug 25 18:31:18 2014] <davmclau>: I can definitely help with that. create tickets :) [Mon Aug 25 18:32:29 2014] <kts>: filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AURORA-663 [Mon Aug 25 18:32:43 2014] <dlester>: davmclau: if you'd like to help the website, I can maybe sit down with you before I head on vacation and walk through the steps -- I have been promising wfarner instructions for a while [Mon Aug 25 18:32:43 2014] <kts>: im sure we need a "holistic improvements" issue as well [Mon Aug 25 18:33:02 2014] <davmclau>: sounds good [Mon Aug 25 18:33:04 2014] <dlester>: and in the future, we'll make this a greater part of the release process [Mon Aug 25 18:33:20 2014] <davmclau>: Straying off topic⦠but I'd like to see documentation part of the review process in general [Mon Aug 25 18:34:12 2014] <kts>: davmclau: +1 [Mon Aug 25 18:34:31 2014] <davmclau>: Especially anything that modified the API (thrift or client) [Mon Aug 25 18:34:35 2014] <davmclau>: *modifes [Mon Aug 25 18:34:35 2014] <kts>: especially for new features, missing docs should be like missing unit tests [Mon Aug 25 18:34:36 2014] <dlester>: +1, it's the best way to ensure docs are fresh [Mon Aug 25 18:35:17 2014] <davmclau>: Maybe we can use the current updater work as a test for this [Mon Aug 25 18:35:22 2014] <kts>: imo we should feel free to call them out in code review [Mon Aug 25 18:36:11 2014] <davmclau>: Or yeah, now just consistently call it out in reviews going forward [Mon Aug 25 18:36:52 2014] <kts>: davmclau: would you like to send a note to the dev@ list about this? [Mon Aug 25 18:37:01 2014] <davmclau>: Yeah, I can do this [Mon Aug 25 18:37:21 2014] <kts>: #action davmclau to mail dev@ list about doc coverage in reviews [Mon Aug 25 18:37:28 2014] <kts>: thanks [Mon Aug 25 18:38:10 2014] <kts>: does anyone else have topics they'd like to discuss? [Mon Aug 25 18:38:10 2014] <wickman>: other topics? how is the scheduler updater going? ## in-scheduler updater ## [Mon Aug 25 18:38:45 2014] <davmclau>: wfarner is on vacation for this week, so it will not progress much until he is back [Mon Aug 25 18:38:47 2014] <kts>: mkhutornenko and davmclau: how's it going? [Mon Aug 25 18:39:00 2014] <davmclau>: my plan is to have a review with just UI screenshots early this week [Mon Aug 25 18:39:12 2014] <mkhutornenko>: the updater API/persistance side is mostly done. Waiting on wfarner to complete the final piece in state machine [Mon Aug 25 18:39:17 2014] <davmclau>: once those are shipped, I'll get a proper code review out [Mon Aug 25 18:40:08 2014] <davmclau>: if anyone is particularly interested in giving feedback on the UI, let me know and I'll add you to the people line of the review [Mon Aug 25 18:40:12 2014] <mkhutornenko>: we would also need some client work to switch to the new async update api set [Mon Aug 25 18:40:58 2014] <davmclau>: will the first commit be a separate API endpoint? [Mon Aug 25 18:41:01 2014] <jcohen>: davmclau feel free to add me to the review [Mon Aug 25 18:41:25 2014] <davmclau>: or will we migrate "job update" in the first pass? [Mon Aug 25 18:42:23 2014] <davmclau>: s/API endpoint/client command/ [Mon Aug 25 18:42:37 2014] <mkhutornenko>: davmclau: the endpoint is the same, we will have to support two approaches side by side until we have full parity [Mon Aug 25 18:43:21 2014] <davmclau>: okay, sounds good [Mon Aug 25 18:44:00 2014] <kts>: thanks for the updates on updates everyone [Mon Aug 25 18:44:24 2014] <kts>: any other agenda items for this week? [Mon Aug 25 18:45:04 2014] <kts>: ASFBot: meeting stop Meeting ended at Mon Aug 25 18:45:04 2014