Hey Wes,

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 12:23 AM Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi Krisztian,
>
> Anyone who's developing in the project can see that the Buildbot setup
> is working well (at least for Linux builds) and giving much more
> timely feedback, which has been very helpful.
>
> I'm concerned about the "ursabot" approach for a few reasons:
>
> * If we are to centralize our tooling for Arrow CI builds, why can we
> not have the build tool itself under Arrow governance?
>
See below.

> * The current "ursabot" tool has GPL dependencies. Can these be
> factored out into plugins so that the tool itself is ASF-compatible?

Ursabot is actually a buildbot plugin, however it contains some vendored
code from buildbot. If we can push those fixes upstream to buildbot, then
ursabot can be ASF compatible, thus may be maintained within arrow.

> * This is a bit nitpicky but the name "ursabot" bears the name mark of
> an organization that funds developers in this project. I'm concerned
> about this, as I would about a tool named "clouderabot", "dremiobot",
> "databricksbot", "googlebot", "ibmbot" or anything like that. It's
> different from using a tool developed by an unaffiliated third party
>
Ursa-labs is concentrated to the development of Arrow, so I think it is a
bit different than your examples.
We can rename it if you want or resolve the licensing of ursabot (push
all of the vendored code to buildbot), then donate it to Arrow.

>
> In any case, I think putting the build configurations for the current
> Ursa Labs-managed build cluster in the Apache Arrow repository is a
> good idea, but there are likely a number of issues that we need to
> address to be able to contemplate having a hard dependency between the
> CI that we depend on to merge patches and this tool.
>
> - Wes
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 8:17 AM Antoine Pitrou <anto...@python.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Le 05/09/2019 à 15:04, Krisztián Szűcs a écrit :
> > >>
> > >> If going with buildbot, this means that the various build steps need
> to
> > >> be generic like in Travis-CI (e.g. "install", "setup", "before-test",
> > >> "test", "after-test"...) and their contents expressed outside of the
> > >> buildmaster configuration per se.
> > >>
> > > This is partially resolved with the Builder abstraction, see an example
> > > here [1]. We just need to add and reload these Builder configurations
> > > dynamically on certain events, like when someone changes a builder
> > > from a PR.
> >
> > This is inside the buildmaster process, right?  I don't understand how
> > you plan to change those dynamically without affecting all concurrent
> > builds.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Antoine.
>

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