Hi, I also figured out that if and unless prefix are not going to mask 
potential if or unless attributes already existing in custom types or data 
types. I was glad to see that the patch was still usable with little manual 
work after so many years in Bugzilla.
I did not try to create an implementation without namespaces, no idea whether 
this would be easy or not.
Antoine


Peter Reilly <peter.kitt.rei...@gmail.com> a écrit :

>The problem of not using namespaces is that they
>would not be backward compatible. Also the attributes
>are 'magic' and we already have 'id' as a magic attribute,
>which makes task code hard to reason about.
>Peter
>p.s, I really hate xml namespaces!
>
>
>
>On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Jean-Louis Boudart <
>jeanlouis.boud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not a big fan of adding this feature through internal namespaces,
>was
>> there any complication to do it without namespaces ?
>>
>> Anyway it does the job, and stuff looks extensible so i'm fine with
>current
>> solution if no one objects.
>>
>> 49036 add 'unless' attribute to JUnit test element was already solved
>> isn't it ?
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/5/6 Peter Reilly <peter.kitt.rei...@gmail.com>
>>
>> > wow, I had forgot about that!
>> >
>> > Peter
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Antoine Levy Lambert
><anto...@gmx.de
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > I have committed a patch created by Peter Reilly back in 2007.
>> > >
>> > > The bugzilla PR is 43362 [1]
>> > >
>> > > If the community is happy with this change we will be able to
>close a
>> > > number of bug reports requesting if/unless on various elements .
>> > > For instance 49136 requesting if/unless support for attribute
>nested
>> > > element of manifest task,
>> > > 49036 add 'unless' attribute to JUnit test element,
>> > > ...
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > > Antoine
>> > >
>> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=43362
>> > >
>> > > On May 3, 2013, at 5:37 AM, Jan Matèrne (jhm) wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > AFAIK this was discussed several times in the past (few years)
>with
>> the
>> > > > result, that having if/unless an _all_ elements would decrease
>> > > > maintainability of the build scripts.
>> > > >
>> > > > But +1 from me for having if/unless on nested elements.
>> > > >
>> > > > What about supporting more complex conditions via nested
><condition>
>> > > > elements?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Jan
>> > > >
>> > > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> > > >> Von: Michael Clarke [mailto:michael.m.cla...@gmail.com]
>> > > >> Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Mai 2013 11:01
>> > > >> An: Ant Developers List
>> > > >> Betreff: Re: Adding if/unless conditions on commandline args
>> > > >>
>> > > >> +1 from me too
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On 3 May 2013, at 09:37, Jean-Louis Boudart
>> > > >> <jeanlouis.boud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> +1
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> 2013/5/3 Antoine Levy Lambert <anto...@gmx.de>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>> I wonder whether we could not add if an unless on all nested
>> > > >> elements
>> > > >>>> in the framework ?
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> Regards,
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> Antoine
>> > > >>>> On May 3, 2013, at 2:57 AM, Jean-Louis Boudart wrote:
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>> Hi,
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> It's currently difficult to make reusable script when using
>> <exec>
>> > > >>>>> task
>> > > >>>> or
>> > > >>>>> any other task using commandline args.
>> > > >>>>> We oftenly need some "dynamic arguments" and this can be
>> > > >> complicated.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Therefor, i suggest to introduce if/unless conditions on
>comand
>> > > >> line
>> > > >>>> args :
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> <exec executable="git">
>> > > >>>>> <arg value="commit"/>
>> > > >>>>> <arg line="-a" if="${commit.all.files}"/>  <arg
>value="-m"/>
>>  <arg
>> > > >>>>> value="${commit.message}"/> </exec>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> I have a working implementation  with related tests and
>> > > >> documentation.
>> > > >>>>> Commandline.Arg class now extends ProjectComponent, and
>expose
>> > > >>>>> accessors for if/unless condition, and rely on
>PropertyHelper to
>> > > >> check conditions.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Is this sufficient ? From what i have seen, it doesn't
>break
>> > > >>>>> backward compatibility at least all tests are green :p.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> The setProject(Project p) method should be invoked
>> "automatically"
>> > > >>>>> by ProjectHelper isn't it ?
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> If ant is used in pure java and we ommited invoking
>> > > >>>>> setProject(Project p) method, it should also works as
>> > > >> PropertyHelper seems null safe.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> If there is no objection i will commit this this week end.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
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