+1 to shipping Ivy with Ant - maybe even call it Ant 2.0 ?

On 28/05/2009, at 2:30 AM, Jason Trump wrote:

That is definitely a cool idea. Another possibility would be to use embedded Ivy to implement an auto-update feature for ant and/or ivy itself.
Not a "three-dialogs-per-day" kind of auto-update feature, of course.

jason

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From: Martin Eigenbrodt [mailto:martineigenbr...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wed 5/27/2009 2:02 AM
To: Ant Developers List
Subject: Re: distribution of ivy with ant



I think this is a great Idea and could bring the power of ivy to the core of
ant. You could then even change taskdef (or write  a similair task) to
support somethingh like:

<taskdef org="cobertura" module="cobertura" revision="1.9.1"
resource="tasks.properties"/>

No need to manually download the files and setup a path before. This would
make using ant extensions/ thirdparty tasks easier.

Best regards,

Martin



2009/5/27 Xavier Hanin <xavier.ha...@gmail.com>

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Steve Loughran <ste...@apache.org> wrote:

Enis Soztutar wrote:

I don't know if it is discussed previously but I was wondering why ivy
is
not included in the ant distribution. More and more projects previously depending on ant start to use ivy, but the build files are cluttered
with
ivy-download, check-ivy-antlib, etc. Technically ivy is a subproject of
ant,
and it can be used optionally. However if they are distributed together
there will be several benefits:
1. Out-of-the-box support for dependency management for ant
2. Better integration of ivy with ant
3. No more check, download and load ivy targets in build files
4. Lowered entry barrier to using ivy  for existing ant users
5. Exposure of ivy to more users

the only drawback I can think of is the extra ivy jar file in the
distribution.

Is there any plans on the roadmap?


Now that ivy is part of Ant, it makes sense to start thinking of bundling the two. However, it may tie the release cycle of the faster moving item
(ivy) to that of the slower one.

Ivy may still be released separately too, so that people wanting to upgrade their Ivy version without waiting for a release of Ant could still do it.
WDYT?

Xavier


Do you think things have stabilised/slowed down enough for this? We can
of
course increase the release frequency of Ant...


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