That is definitely a cool idea. Another possibility would be to use embedded Ivy to implement an auto-update feature for ant and/or ivy itself. Not a "three-dialogs-per-day" kind of auto-update feature, of course. jason
________________________________ From: Martin Eigenbrodt [mailto:martineigenbr...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wed 5/27/2009 2:02 AM To: Ant Developers List Subject: Re: distribution of ivy with ant I think this is a great Idea and could bring the power of ivy to the core of ant. You could then even change taskdef (or write a similair task) to support somethingh like: <taskdef org="cobertura" module="cobertura" revision="1.9.1" resource="tasks.properties"/> No need to manually download the files and setup a path before. This would make using ant extensions/ thirdparty tasks easier. Best regards, Martin 2009/5/27 Xavier Hanin <xavier.ha...@gmail.com> > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Steve Loughran <ste...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Enis Soztutar wrote: > > > >> I don't know if it is discussed previously but I was wondering why ivy > is > >> not included in the ant distribution. More and more projects previously > >> depending on ant start to use ivy, but the build files are cluttered > with > >> ivy-download, check-ivy-antlib, etc. Technically ivy is a subproject of > ant, > >> and it can be used optionally. However if they are distributed together > >> there will be several benefits: > >> 1. Out-of-the-box support for dependency management for ant > >> 2. Better integration of ivy with ant > >> 3. No more check, download and load ivy targets in build files > >> 4. Lowered entry barrier to using ivy for existing ant users > >> 5. Exposure of ivy to more users > >> > >> the only drawback I can think of is the extra ivy jar file in the > >> distribution. > >> > >> Is there any plans on the roadmap? > >> > >> > > Now that ivy is part of Ant, it makes sense to start thinking of bundling > > the two. However, it may tie the release cycle of the faster moving item > > (ivy) to that of the slower one. > > Ivy may still be released separately too, so that people wanting to upgrade > their Ivy version without waiting for a release of Ant could still do it. > WDYT? > > Xavier > > > > Do you think things have stabilised/slowed down enough for this? We can > of > > course increase the release frequency of Ant... > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@ant.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@ant.apache.org > > > > > > > -- > Xavier Hanin - 4SH France > BordeauxJUG co leader - http://www.bordeauxjug.org/ > Blogger - http://xhab.blogspot.com/ > Apache Ivy Creator - http://ant.apache.org/ivy/ >
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