Thank you!

On Mon, Jul 7, 2025 at 10:12 AM Vikram Koka <vik...@astronomer.io.invalid>
wrote:

> Hi Eugene,
>
> Good point, I should have put in the link for the scope/timeline. It is
> here
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=308153069#Airflow3.0-Airflow3.1scope
> >
>
>
> I will expand on this with details / links, etc. and also make it more
> easily findable on the wiki before the next dev call.
>
> Vikram
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2025 at 5:32 PM Eugen Kosteev <eu...@kosteev.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Vikram.
> >
> > Thanks for the summary from the meeting. I missed a call (assuming that
> it
> > will be in 2 weeks from previous).
> > Can you, please, share what is the timeline for the Airflow 3.1 release.
> It
> > is not mentioned in the summary, and I can't find it on wiki.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > - Eugene
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 7, 2025 at 3:04 AM Vikram Koka <vik...@astronomer.io.invalid
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hey everyone,
> > >
> > > Thank you to everyone who made the dev call last week. I updated our
> > > meeting notes document in the Airflow wiki to capture the notes. The
> link
> > > for those notes is here
> > > <
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=308153072#Airflow3Devcall:MeetingNotes-Summary.31
> > >
> > >
> > > To everyone who attended the meeting, please check the summary and add
> > > anything that I may have missed. For those who could not join, please
> let
> > > us know if you disagree with anything discussed and agreed upon in
> > > the meeting. Also, please do ask questions if something is unclear.
> > >
> > > Our next meeting is scheduled for the 17th of July at the same time.
> The
> > > agenda is pretty open for now and is focused on development updates for
> > the
> > > AIPs targeted towards Airflow 3.1.  Please let me know if you would
> like
> > > to add anything to the agenda
> > > <
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=308153072#Airflow3Devcall:MeetingNotes-ProposedAgenda.12
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Vikram
> > >
> > > --
> > > Below is the summary from the call:
> > >
> > >    - Catch-up on action items from last call:
> > >       - None
> > >    - Development updates and presentations:
> > >       - Airflow 3 adoption (Vikram)
> > >          - Vikram shared that the download numbers show encouraging
> signs
> > >          of 3.0 adoption, with about 12% of all downloads for the last
> > month being
> > >          for 3.0 placing it in third place, with 2.10 in the lead with
> > 29% and 2.6
> > >          (still puzzling) in second place with 16%.
> > >          - Vikram also noted that 2.11 which was released after 3.0 is
> at
> > >          5% of downloads, which showed that more people were willing to
> > go to 3.0
> > >          directly from earlier 2.x versions.
> > >          - Jens noted that it was still a very good thing that we had
> > >          released 2.11, since 5% of people had upgraded to it from
> > earlier 2.x
> > >          versions, presumably because they were not yet ready to
> upgrade
> > to 3.0.
> > >          - The team noted that for several organizations there were a
> > >          couple of functional gaps, notably UI Plugins and "run as
> user"
> > which
> > >          blocked the upgrade to 3.0. Amogh responded that "run as user"
> > is available
> > >          as part of Airflow 3.0.3.
> > >          - Vikram noted that the two big known gaps i.e. UI plugins and
> > >          Deadline Alerts are targeted for the 3.1 release.
> > >          - The team noted that we should make an effort to clean up any
> > >          such small blockers in the 3.1 release.
> > >          - The ask for the community is to please highlight such gaps
> > >          encountered in the dev list or the Airflow 3 dev slack
> channel.
> > >       - CLI update (Bugra)
> > >          - Bugra walked through the Github project for this AIP as well
> > >          as the current status of the work.
> > >          - Bugra stated that the project would be ready to be
> integrated
> > >          into the release process in a couple of weeks.
> > >          - Bugra also volunteered to help in the release process as
> > >          needed. Jarek pointed out that some additional work may be
> > needed around
> > >          tests as part of getting ready for release.
> > >       - Airflow 3.1 update (Vikram)
> > >          - Vikram shared the overall scope and timing of the Airflow
> 3.1
> > >          release as documented on the wiki page.
> > >          - The one area of significant discussion was the Human in the
> > >          loop as detailed below.
> > >       - Discussion topics:
> > >       - Human in the loop
> > >          - Jens started the discussion here by pushing for the Human in
> > >          the loop feature to be built and released as a separate
> > provider, not
> > >          within the standard provider package.
> > >          - Kaxil vocally advocated for this to be in Core Airflow for
> > >          simplicity and walked through the initial PR created by Wei to
> > illustrate
> > >          his rationale.
> > >          - Jarek vehemently agreed with Kaxil.
> > >          - Pierre also agreed with Kaxil, saying that he would prefer
> UI
> > >          plugins to be only used by users, not by us as Airflow
> > contributors.
> > >          - This then led to the discussion that we have gone too far
> with
> > >          the Provider separation from Core Airflow. Jed brought up the
> > point that he
> > >          would like to get the Executors out of the Providers into a
> > different
> > >          package.
> > >          - The discussion ended with the decision to make the "core"
> > >          Human in the loop functionality as part of Core Airflow.
> > >       - Code sharing discussion (Ash)
> > >          - The prior discussion also led to the code sharing discussion
> > >          between Task SDK and Core Airflow, following the thread
> brought
> > up by Ash
> > >          in the dev list.
> > >          - This was a great discussion with a lot of participation from
> > >          everyone on the call.
> > >          - Ash to summarize this.
> > >
> > >
> > > --[image: Screenshot 2025-07-01 at 7.41.50 PM.png]
> > >
> > > Vikram Koka
> > > Chief Strategy Officer
> > > Email: vik...@astronomer.io
> > >
> > >
> > > <https://www.astronomer.io/>
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Eugene
> >
>


-- 
Eugene

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