Hi Eugene,

Good point, I should have put in the link for the scope/timeline. It is here
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=308153069#Airflow3.0-Airflow3.1scope>


I will expand on this with details / links, etc. and also make it more
easily findable on the wiki before the next dev call.

Vikram


On Mon, Jul 7, 2025 at 5:32 PM Eugen Kosteev <eu...@kosteev.com> wrote:

> Hi Vikram.
>
> Thanks for the summary from the meeting. I missed a call (assuming that it
> will be in 2 weeks from previous).
> Can you, please, share what is the timeline for the Airflow 3.1 release. It
> is not mentioned in the summary, and I can't find it on wiki.
>
> Thank you
>
> - Eugene
>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2025 at 3:04 AM Vikram Koka <vik...@astronomer.io.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey everyone,
> >
> > Thank you to everyone who made the dev call last week. I updated our
> > meeting notes document in the Airflow wiki to capture the notes. The link
> > for those notes is here
> > <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=308153072#Airflow3Devcall:MeetingNotes-Summary.31
> >
> >
> > To everyone who attended the meeting, please check the summary and add
> > anything that I may have missed. For those who could not join, please let
> > us know if you disagree with anything discussed and agreed upon in
> > the meeting. Also, please do ask questions if something is unclear.
> >
> > Our next meeting is scheduled for the 17th of July at the same time. The
> > agenda is pretty open for now and is focused on development updates for
> the
> > AIPs targeted towards Airflow 3.1.  Please let me know if you would like
> > to add anything to the agenda
> > <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=308153072#Airflow3Devcall:MeetingNotes-ProposedAgenda.12
> >
> > .
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Vikram
> >
> > --
> > Below is the summary from the call:
> >
> >    - Catch-up on action items from last call:
> >       - None
> >    - Development updates and presentations:
> >       - Airflow 3 adoption (Vikram)
> >          - Vikram shared that the download numbers show encouraging signs
> >          of 3.0 adoption, with about 12% of all downloads for the last
> month being
> >          for 3.0 placing it in third place, with 2.10 in the lead with
> 29% and 2.6
> >          (still puzzling) in second place with 16%.
> >          - Vikram also noted that 2.11 which was released after 3.0 is at
> >          5% of downloads, which showed that more people were willing to
> go to 3.0
> >          directly from earlier 2.x versions.
> >          - Jens noted that it was still a very good thing that we had
> >          released 2.11, since 5% of people had upgraded to it from
> earlier 2.x
> >          versions, presumably because they were not yet ready to upgrade
> to 3.0.
> >          - The team noted that for several organizations there were a
> >          couple of functional gaps, notably UI Plugins and "run as user"
> which
> >          blocked the upgrade to 3.0. Amogh responded that "run as user"
> is available
> >          as part of Airflow 3.0.3.
> >          - Vikram noted that the two big known gaps i.e. UI plugins and
> >          Deadline Alerts are targeted for the 3.1 release.
> >          - The team noted that we should make an effort to clean up any
> >          such small blockers in the 3.1 release.
> >          - The ask for the community is to please highlight such gaps
> >          encountered in the dev list or the Airflow 3 dev slack channel.
> >       - CLI update (Bugra)
> >          - Bugra walked through the Github project for this AIP as well
> >          as the current status of the work.
> >          - Bugra stated that the project would be ready to be integrated
> >          into the release process in a couple of weeks.
> >          - Bugra also volunteered to help in the release process as
> >          needed. Jarek pointed out that some additional work may be
> needed around
> >          tests as part of getting ready for release.
> >       - Airflow 3.1 update (Vikram)
> >          - Vikram shared the overall scope and timing of the Airflow 3.1
> >          release as documented on the wiki page.
> >          - The one area of significant discussion was the Human in the
> >          loop as detailed below.
> >       - Discussion topics:
> >       - Human in the loop
> >          - Jens started the discussion here by pushing for the Human in
> >          the loop feature to be built and released as a separate
> provider, not
> >          within the standard provider package.
> >          - Kaxil vocally advocated for this to be in Core Airflow for
> >          simplicity and walked through the initial PR created by Wei to
> illustrate
> >          his rationale.
> >          - Jarek vehemently agreed with Kaxil.
> >          - Pierre also agreed with Kaxil, saying that he would prefer UI
> >          plugins to be only used by users, not by us as Airflow
> contributors.
> >          - This then led to the discussion that we have gone too far with
> >          the Provider separation from Core Airflow. Jed brought up the
> point that he
> >          would like to get the Executors out of the Providers into a
> different
> >          package.
> >          - The discussion ended with the decision to make the "core"
> >          Human in the loop functionality as part of Core Airflow.
> >       - Code sharing discussion (Ash)
> >          - The prior discussion also led to the code sharing discussion
> >          between Task SDK and Core Airflow, following the thread brought
> up by Ash
> >          in the dev list.
> >          - This was a great discussion with a lot of participation from
> >          everyone on the call.
> >          - Ash to summarize this.
> >
> >
> > --[image: Screenshot 2025-07-01 at 7.41.50 PM.png]
> >
> > Vikram Koka
> > Chief Strategy Officer
> > Email: vik...@astronomer.io
> >
> >
> > <https://www.astronomer.io/>
> >
>
>
> --
> Eugene
>

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