+1 Yes, too many emails are being received recenty which is not good for both the users (does not solve their objective) and the recipients (is a spam for them) and also agree that users should easily know how to unsubscribe, so anything that could help more is great!
On Fri, 3 Mar 2023, 12:56 Daniel Imberman, <daniel.imber...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 11:24 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote: > >> Hey everyone, >> >> TL;DR; I would like to ask for a lazy consensus of adding a footer to >> our users@ list explaining how to unsubscribe. >> >> There were quite a few users that got confused about unsubscribing >> from users@ list. I think there are quite a few reasons why we should >> inform the users how they could unsubscribe, because many of them do >> not even remember how they subscribed. >> >> I opened https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-24249 and during >> the discussion it turned out that "standard" "list-unsubscribe" header >> is not effective in many cases (for example gmail users do not see an >> easy unsubscribe option because apache.org mailing lists apparently do >> not have proven history of unsubscribing) and seems the best way to >> deal with it is to add explicit information in the footer. >> >> We can simply add this standard footer to our list posts: >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: <#l#>-unsubscribe@<#h#> >> For additional commands, e-mail: <#l#>-help@<#h#> >> >> I am not a big fan of email footers but I think it would be nice if we >> add it for users@ list at least. The dev@ subscribers are much more >> "aware" and will likely find a way. >> >> No need to respond to it unless you would like to argue against it. I >> will let the consensus question run for 72 hours + 1 day for the >> weekend (tilI Tuesday 7th of March 8 am CET). >> >> J. >> >> Additional info: some extra information that came out during the >> discussion: There are some regulations and expectations for the >> unsubscribe button: >> >> >> https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/resources/can-spam-act-compliance-guide-business >> >> "Tell recipients how to opt out of receiving future email from you. >> Your message must include a clear and conspicuous explanation of how >> the recipient can opt out of getting email from you in the future. >> Craft the notice in a way that’s easy for an ordinary person to >> recognize, read, and understand." >> >> J, >> >
