+1 On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 11:24 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> Hey everyone, > > TL;DR; I would like to ask for a lazy consensus of adding a footer to > our users@ list explaining how to unsubscribe. > > There were quite a few users that got confused about unsubscribing > from users@ list. I think there are quite a few reasons why we should > inform the users how they could unsubscribe, because many of them do > not even remember how they subscribed. > > I opened https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-24249 and during > the discussion it turned out that "standard" "list-unsubscribe" header > is not effective in many cases (for example gmail users do not see an > easy unsubscribe option because apache.org mailing lists apparently do > not have proven history of unsubscribing) and seems the best way to > deal with it is to add explicit information in the footer. > > We can simply add this standard footer to our list posts: > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <#l#>-unsubscribe@<#h#> > For additional commands, e-mail: <#l#>-help@<#h#> > > I am not a big fan of email footers but I think it would be nice if we > add it for users@ list at least. The dev@ subscribers are much more > "aware" and will likely find a way. > > No need to respond to it unless you would like to argue against it. I > will let the consensus question run for 72 hours + 1 day for the > weekend (tilI Tuesday 7th of March 8 am CET). > > J. > > Additional info: some extra information that came out during the > discussion: There are some regulations and expectations for the > unsubscribe button: > > > https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/resources/can-spam-act-compliance-guide-business > > "Tell recipients how to opt out of receiving future email from you. > Your message must include a clear and conspicuous explanation of how > the recipient can opt out of getting email from you in the future. > Craft the notice in a way that’s easy for an ordinary person to > recognize, read, and understand." > > J, >