+1

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 11:24 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> TL;DR; I would like to ask for a lazy consensus of adding a footer to
> our users@ list explaining how to unsubscribe.
>
> There were quite a few users that got confused about unsubscribing
> from users@ list. I think there are quite a few reasons why we should
> inform the users how they could unsubscribe, because many of them do
> not even remember how they subscribed.
>
> I opened https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-24249 and during
> the discussion it turned out that "standard" "list-unsubscribe" header
> is not effective in many cases (for example gmail users do not see an
> easy unsubscribe option because apache.org mailing lists apparently do
> not have proven history of unsubscribing) and seems the best way to
> deal with it is to add explicit information in the footer.
>
> We can simply add this standard footer to our list posts:
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: <#l#>-unsubscribe@<#h#>
> For additional commands, e-mail: <#l#>-help@<#h#>
>
> I am not a big fan of email footers but I think it would be nice if we
> add it for users@ list at least. The dev@ subscribers are much more
> "aware" and will likely find a way.
>
> No need to respond to it unless you would like to argue against it. I
> will let the consensus question run for 72 hours + 1 day for the
> weekend (tilI Tuesday 7th of March 8 am CET).
>
> J.
>
> Additional info: some extra information that came out during the
> discussion: There are some regulations and expectations for the
> unsubscribe button:
>
>
> https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/resources/can-spam-act-compliance-guide-business
>
> "Tell recipients how to opt out of receiving future email from you.
> Your message must include a clear and conspicuous explanation of how
> the recipient can opt out of getting email from you in the future.
> Craft the notice in a way that’s easy for an ordinary person to
> recognize, read, and understand."
>
> J,
>

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