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> On 14 Jul 2017, at 13:48, Jim Blandy <jbla...@mozilla.com> wrote: > > Yeah, this is kind of the opposite of "No New Rationale". > > https://air.mozilla.org/friday-plenary-rust-and-the-community/ > > >> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:49 PM, David Anderson <bailo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 1:38:18 PM UTC-7, Joe Hildebrand wrote: >>> I'm responding at the top of the thread here so that I'm not singling >> out any particular response. >>> >>> We didn't make clear in this process how much work Mark and his team did >> ahead of the decision to gather feedback from senior engineers on both >> Selena and my teams, and how deeply committed the directors have been in >> their support of this change. >>> >>> Seeing a need for more modern patch reviewing at Mozilla, Laura >> Thomson's team did an independent analysis of the most popular tools >> available on the market today. Working with the NSS team to pilot their >> selected tool, they found that Phabricator is a good fit for our >> development approach (coincidentally a good enough fit that the Graphics >> team was also piloting Phabricator in parallel). After getting the support >> of the Engineering directors, they gathered feedback from senior engineers >> and managers on the suggested approach, and tweaked dates and features to >> match up with our release cycles more appropriately. >> >> The problem is this hasn't been transparent. It was announced as an edict, >> and I don't remember seeing any public discussion beforehand. If senior >> engineers were consulted, it wasn't many of them - and the only person I >> know who was, was consulted after the decision was made. >> >> I've contributed thousands of patches over many years and haven't really >> seen an explanation of how this change will make my development process >> easier. Maybe it will, or maybe it won't. It probably won't be a big deal >> because this kind of tooling is not really what makes development hard. I >> don't spend most of my day figuring out how to get a changeset from one >> place to another. >> >> The fact is that no one really asked us beforehand, "What would make >> development easier?" We're just being told that Phabricator will. That's >> why people are skeptical. >> _______________________________________________ >> dev-platform mailing list >> dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org >> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform >> > _______________________________________________ > dev-platform mailing list > dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform _______________________________________________ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
