An update to this: I just re-joined the ARIA-WG on Mozilla's behalf.

Marco


2016-06-02 17:47 GMT+02:00 David Bolter <dbol...@mozilla.com>:

> Hi Johnathan,
>
> Our lack of direct W3C ARIA involvement recently is mainly due to
> time/resource constraints and we have influence via proxy.
>
> I think ARIA is best scoped as passive semantics used to describe the
> reality of how web developers (ab)use HTML. It is not unreasonable to argue
> that ARIA, by existing, implicitly condones this (ab)use. That said, we
> made the decision a long time ago to advocate using proper semantic HTML
> (and evolve HTML where it falls short), while accepting the need for a
> solution/hack for the reality of what web developers are doing.
>
> The password case is interesting though I've not followed it closely. I'm
> happy to connect you with people (including Rich) if needed (feel free ping
> me offline)...
>
> Cheers,
> D
>
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Jonathan Kingston <jkings...@mozilla.com>
> wrote:
>
>> <mz...@mozilla.com>
>> Hey,
>>
>> So I was just informed that Mozilla isn't a member of the ARIA working
>> group which shocked me, we have however had a hand in the spec over the
>> years (I have cc'd those mentioned).
>>
>> I notice over the years some disappointment with the spec as it being a
>> separate module to semantics in HTML itself however I don't see a real
>> opposition not to be in the group. This seems more of a formality when the
>> group split into two working groups.
>>
>> It appears that ARIA 1.1 is moving to be resolved in the next few weeks
>> so if we had any objections we would need to move now I have been told.
>>
>> *role="password"* has been added to the spec:
>> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#password and I jotted
>> my objections in a post:
>> https://jotter.jonathankingston.co.uk/blog/2016/05/16/role-password-is-not-wise/
>>
>> My post was largely dismissed in this mail:
>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2016May/0126.html
>>
>> Is it worth us joining? Can we discuss the wider use of ARIA itself?
>> Rushing to standardise features seems a shame.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
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