Hi, Jonathan.

As far as I can tell, no one in Mozilla is super active in ARIA
nowadays; I personally (among others I think) skim through ARIA email
threads and provide occasional feedback on feature by feature basis.

One of reasons keeping me off I think is I'm worried about direction
taken in ARIA 1.1, which looks with me as to turn ARIA into universal
markup language for web page semantics description, so that ARIA
vocabulary can be used to describe whole HTML and more. I feel like
every single feature from HTML gets added to ARIA eventually, and I
not always convinced that each requested feature has a real use case
on the web. I expressed these worries, but my voice probably wasn't
strong enough to turn the wheel back.

So I'm not confident about role='password' too. While I don't have
strong objections, but I never heard the web authors complaining about
the missing feature. I would say if we do have strong concerns, and
cannot negotiate with the group to keep the feature off the spec, then
it shouldn't mean we have to implement the feature in Gecko. After all
if the feature doesn't get two implementation, then it gets removed
from the spec afaik.

Thanks.
Alexander.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Jonathan Kingston <jkings...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> So I was just informed that Mozilla isn't a member of the ARIA working group
> which shocked me, we have however had a hand in the spec over the years (I
> have cc'd those mentioned).
>
> I notice over the years some disappointment with the spec as it being a
> separate module to semantics in HTML itself however I don't see a real
> opposition not to be in the group. This seems more of a formality when the
> group split into two working groups.
>
> It appears that ARIA 1.1 is moving to be resolved in the next few weeks so
> if we had any objections we would need to move now I have been told.
>
> role="password" has been added to the spec:
> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#password and I jotted my
> objections in a post:
> https://jotter.jonathankingston.co.uk/blog/2016/05/16/role-password-is-not-wise/
>
> My post was largely dismissed in this mail:
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2016May/0126.html
>
> Is it worth us joining? Can we discuss the wider use of ARIA itself? Rushing
> to standardise features seems a shame.
>
> Thanks
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