On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Mike Lawther <mikelawt...@chromium.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 6:56 AM Jonas Sicking <jo...@sicking.cc> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 6:14 AM, Anne van Kesteren <ann...@annevk.nl>
>> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:37 AM, Mike Lawther
>> > <mikelawt...@chromium.org> wrote:
>> >> I'm testing the water here :) Is this at all likely to fly?
>> >
>> > I think the problem with APNG, as opposed to other image formats,
>> > e.g., WebP, is that we already support it. If we added APNG to our
>> > Accept header now, and developers would start relying on that, users
>> > that haven't updated yet or are on Firefox ESR would suddenly get a
>> > worse experience in Firefox. That is not a great incentive.
>>
>> It doesn't seem likely to me that developers would knowingly drop
>> support for some set of users that they already support.
>>
>> It seems much more likely that some set of developers currently don't
>> bother supporting APNG in firefox, either because they worry that it's
>> a browser-specific dead-end technology, or because they feel that
>> there's not enough firefox users that it's worth their time, or
>> because it's too much of a pain to support due to lack of Accept
>> header.
>>
>> The question to me is how large this latter group is, and if it's
>> large enough that it warrants adding the header.
>>
> I don't really have a good answer for that. I can't think of how we (that
> is, browser devs) could gather data on this, other than going out and
> asking.
>
> Do you reckon that a world where multiple browsers correctly send Accept
> will be a good enough story that devs will feel it's not dead end / worth
> their time? And so helps solve the problem for all three of those groups,
> making figuring out the size of the latter less of a showstopper?

I think it'd be a while before website developers think it's worth
changing from UA-sniffing to using the Accept header. Mainly because
of inertia (the UA-sniffing code is already there and likely
documented in places like stackexchange), but also because switching
to Accept header only would actually drop users to very little
benefit.

> Aside - I mentioned the MIME type earlier as a separate question. If devs
> are worried that it's a browser specific dead end tech, having
> 'image/vnd.mozilla.apng' probably won't help that perception :( I've read
> the bug and also chatted offline with Stuart and Vlad about this, so I
> understand why 'image/apng' is almost certainly not going to happen.

I don't think the "vnd.mozilla" part makes any difference. Developers
use what works, not what is nicely named. The whole CSS prefixes
debacle has pretty clearly showed that.

/ Jonas
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