On Wednesday 2015-10-21 11:38 -0400, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > On 10/20/15 6:13 PM, L. David Baron wrote: > > W3C DOM4 > > http://www.w3.org/TR/dom/ > > deadline: November 3, 2015 > > > >Both specifications are derived from upstream WHATWG specifications. > > As of which date? > > I ask because this looks like a fairly old fork, containing various > requirements that are known to not be web-compatible and which have long > since been fixed upstream (e.g. the createAttribute mess). > > >If there are comments you think Mozilla should send as part of the > >review, or if you think Mozilla should voice support or opposition > >to the specification, please say so in this thread. (I'd note, > >however, that there have been many previous opportunities to make > >comments, so it's somewhat bad form to bring up fundamental issues > >for the first time at this stage.) > > There are fundamental issues we've brought up before, and which continue to > be unaddressed (though noted) in this specification. Or indeed upstream. I > assume raising them at this point is not useful, of course. > > In general, I think we should make it clear that this specification as > written is known to be not-web-compatible and that we have no plans to base > implementation activity on this specification as a result.
Based on this feedback, my current intention is to explicitly abstain from the review, with the following comment: We're ok with this spec being published as a Recommendation, although we're not especially happy about the state that it's in. In particular, the specification includes various things where the upstream WHATWG spec tried to make improvements that turned out not to be compatible with existing Web content (e.g., createAttribute), and have since been reverted as a result. (A more thorough test suite might have detected these unimplemented parts of the spec.) There are also unadressed open issues in the upstream specification. So while this specification is not in great shape, we're ok with the W3C making it a Recommendation, although we hope that these issues will be addressed in future levels of the specification. Does this seem reasonable? -David -- 𝄞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 𝄂 𝄢 Mozilla https://www.mozilla.org/ 𝄂 Before I built a wall I'd ask to know What I was walling in or walling out, And to whom I was like to give offense. - Robert Frost, Mending Wall (1914)
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