On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 9:26 PM,  <zbranie...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, October 10, 2015 at 4:28:30 AM UTC-7, Mounir Lamouri wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015, at 02:02, zbranie...@mozilla.com wrote:
>> > On Friday, October 9, 2015 at 10:51:54 AM UTC-7, Mounir Lamouri wrote:
>> > > As far as speed feeling goes, they would win to show something as soon
>> > > as possible and handle any post-first paint loading themselves.
>> >
>> > That is unfortunately not consistent with my experience. People tend to
>> > perceive visible progressive as much slower than delayed first-paint in
>> > most scenarios.
>> >
>> > On top of that, it is perceived as a really_bad_ux.
>>
>> I don't think I agree but I don't mean to discuss Firefox OS product
>> decisions.
>
> I don't think it's specific to Firefox OS. FOUC is a pretty well researched 
> problem and we have spent a lot of time designing standards to limit the risk 
> of them happening.
>
> The problem is that all we take into account when building anti-FOUC 
> heuristics is HTML+CSS, while in the modern Web Apps, JS is part of the 
> bootstrap process.

I agree with a lot of the above. I would recommend reaching out to
Martin Best and getting this on his backlog of items that we need in
order to create more beautiful webapps.

/ Jonas
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