On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 5:57 PM, <diaf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's two relevant Bugzilla bugs:
>
> Self-signed certificates are treated as errors:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=431386
>
> Switch generic icon to negative feedback for non-https sites:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1041087
>
> Here's a proposed way of phasing this plan in over time:
>
> 1. Mid-2015: Start treating self signed certificates as unencrypted
> connections (i.e. stop showing a warning, but the UI would just show the
> globe icon, not the lock icon). This would allow website owners to choose
> to block passive surveillance without causing any cost to them or any
> problems for their users.
>

I think you're over-focusing on the lock icon and not thinking enough about
the referential semantics.

The point of the https: URI is that it tells the browser that this is
supposed to be a secure connection and the browser needs to enforce
this regardless of the UI it shows.

To give a concrete example, say the user enters his password in a form that
is intended to be submitted over HTTPS and the site presents a self-signed
certificate. If the browser send the password, then it has possible
compromised the user's password even if it subsequently doesn't show the
secure UI (because the attacker could supply a self-signed certificate).

-Ekr
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