As Robert is saying:

Le 16 avr. 2015 à 00:29, Robert Kaiser <ka...@kairo.at> a écrit :
> I think we need to think very hard about what reasons people have to still 
> not use TLS and how we can help them to do so.

Definitely.
The resistance in this thread is NOT about "people against security", but 
1. we want to be able to choose
2. if we choose safe, we want that choice to be easy to activate.

# Drifting

Socially, eavesdropping is part of our daily life. We go to a café, we are 
having a discussion and people around you may listen what you are saying. You 
read a book in the train, a newspaper and people might see what you are 
reading. 

We adjust the type of discussions depending on the context. The café is too 
"dangerous", too "privacy invasive" and we decide to go to a safer environment, 
sometimes a safer environment is not necessary being hidden (encryption), but 
being more public. As I said contexts.

(Note above my usage of the word safe and not secure)

# Back to the topic

It's important for the user to understand the weaknesses and the strength of 
the environment so they can make a choice. You could almost imagine that you do 
not care to be plain text until a moment where you activate a secure mode. 
(change of place in the cafe)

Also we need to think in terms of P2P communications, not only 
broadcaster-consumers (1-to-many). If the Web becomes something which is harder 
and harder to start hacking on and communicating with your peers, then we 
reinforce the power of big hierarchical structures and we change the balance 
that Web brought over the publishing/media industry. We should always strive 
for bringing the tools that empower individual people with their ideas and 
expressions.

Security is part of it. But security doesn't necessary equate to safer. It's 
just a tool that can be used in some circumstances.

Do we want to deprecate HTTP? Or do we want to make it more obvious when the 
connection is not secure? These are two very different things.

-- 
Karl Dubost, Mozilla
http://www.la-grange.net/karl/moz

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