On Friday 2014-04-04 12:49 -0700, jmaher wrote:
> > If this plan is applied to existing tests, then it will lead to
> > style system mochitests being turned off due to other regressions
> > because I'm the person who wrote them and the module owner, and I
> > don't always have time to deal with regressions in other parts of
> > code (e.g., the JS engine) leading to these tests failing
> > intermittently.
> > 
> > If that happens, we won't have the test coverage we need to add new
> > CSS properties or values.
> 
> Interesting point.  Are these tests failing often?  Can we invest some 
> minimal time into these to make them more reliable from a test case or test 
> harness perspective?

They're not failing often.  But there has been at least one (and I
think more) occasion where changes in very unrelated code (one was
tracked down to a JS JIT change) caused them, and a bunch of other
tests, to start failing intermittently at higher frequency.  I think
detecting this sort of pattern, of a low level change causing large
numbers of tests to fail at moderate frequency, should be detected
in a way that doesn't lead to us disabling large numbers of tests
(and then probably failing to re-enable them when the problem is
resolved).

I think we could use better tools for finding regression windows for
intermittent failures.

I'd also note that I've been trying to give frequent intermittent
oranges in layout a reasonably high priority, and encourage others
to do the same.  I think we've been doing a reasonably good job at
this lately, although rates of progress have varied.

-David

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