On Monday 2014-03-17 13:31 -0400, Richard Eyre wrote:
> Thanks for adding me Anne, you did get my email correct :-).
> 
> Personally, I'm not interested in developing TTML. I still agree to all the
> points from our previous discussion from the page you linked, Anne.
> 
> I'm not really sure whether having a joint working group would be of
> benefit, particularly if there isn't interest in developing TTML in the
> WebVTT community, which from my experience is the case. It also scares me a
> bit because having a joint group might result in WebVTT being modified for
> TTML specific reasons, such as better interoperability, or otherwise,
> (possibly?) which wouldn't be good for the spec moving forward due to our
> previous concerns.

Sorry for not catching up on this thread until it's too late, but
anyway:

I'm inclined to think that it's not worth putting up a massive fight
over the group's organization here, which I think is what it would
take to change this plan.  I think I'd rather focus the bandwidth of
our communication with W3C management on other issues.

I think if the group goes off into the weeds, it's worth putting up
a fight over that, primarily in the group itself.  (On the other
hand, I think it is worth listening to the real needs of producers
who have large libraries of captions that they'd like to convert to
WebVTT.)

I suppose I should at least send late feedback over the decision
process, and perhaps also that there should be more mention of the
working group operating as two subgroups than "Teleconferences:
Weekly for TTML, and as needed for WebVTT".

-David

> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Anne van Kesteren <ann...@annevk.nl> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 7:56 AM, L. David Baron <dba...@dbaron.org> wrote:
> > > The W3C is proposing a revised charter for:
> > >
> > >   Timed Text Working Group
> > >   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2014Feb/0004.html
> > >   http://www.w3.org/2013/10/timed-text-charter.html
> > >   deadline for comments: March 20
> > >
> > > This new charter is quite substantive, in that it recharters a
> > > working group that was previously only for TTML to now be to develop
> > > both TTML and WebVTT.  My understanding is that the two halves of
> > > the group are expected to operate somewhat separately but also
> > > interact, although the charter doesn't seem to say that explicitly.
> > >
> > > Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objections through
> > > March 20.  Please reply to this thread if you think there's
> > > something we should say.
> >
> > So we commented pretty strongly against this in the past:
> >
> >   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2013May/0034.html
> >
> > Has something changed?
> >
> >
> > (Not sure I got the correct email address for Rick, I found it on old
> > archived email from a year ago.)
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://annevankesteren.nl/
> >

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             What I was walling in or walling out,
             And to whom I was like to give offense.
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