On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Gregory Szorc <g...@mozilla.com> wrote:

> On 2/6/14, 9:23 AM, Dave Townsend wrote:
>
>> I assume the second section is actually "getcwd() not in objdir but is
>> in srcdir"?
>>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>  I'm crazy enough to want to be able to call mach when getcwd() isn't
>> either the objdir or srcdir. I have many of both and use various
>> environment flags to say which is active currently. Perhaps it's
>> implicit, but I don't see the option to use the directory that mach is
>> in to find the srcdir, that would work fine for me and solve the need
>> for my current scripts to change directory just to call mach.
>>
>
> mach needs to "bind" to a source directory because it needs to load Python
> files from it. The "mach" script at the root of the checkout (which can be
> symlinked or even copied to your heart's content) has a mechanism for
> discovering the source directory. It then calls a routine in the source
> directory which completes the bootstrap process.
>
> If no source directory can be found, the mach script aborts. This commonly
> happens if you run |mach| outside a source directory.
>
> We /can/ add a facility for discovering source directories when "mach" is
> not inside of one. If someone says it is a hard workflow requirement, I
> reckon it will be implemented somehow.
>

I think perhaps I wasn't clear. I'd expect "getcwd() not in objdir nor
srcdir" to have as the first option "look for the srcdir based on the
location of the called mach script". So I can do "<srcdir>/mach" and have
it work, or an alias to mach or something else.


>
>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Gavin Sharp <ga...@gavinsharp.com
>> <mailto:ga...@gavinsharp.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Whose workflow requires calling mach not in an objdir or srcdir? That
>>     seems crazy and no one should do it!
>>
>>     Similarly, it seems like all of the ambiguous cases you mention should
>>     be aborts, because I don't know of any reasonable cases where someone
>>     would be in that situation, and "picking one" just leads to
>>     hard-to-predict results.
>>
>>     (Given the audience I'm sure the above must be dismissive of
>>     _someone_'s Important Workflow - I would love to discover whose it
>>     is!)
>>
>>     Gavin
>>
>>     On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Gregory Szorc <g...@mozilla.com
>>     <mailto:g...@mozilla.com>> wrote:
>>      > There are a number of people who can't use mach because of the
>>     way it does
>>      > environment detection (e.g. how it resolves object directories
>>     and other
>>      > paths).
>>      >
>>      > There are numerous bugs on the issue. We even have bug 912114
>>     tracking
>>      > everywhere that mach and the build system is doing something wrong
>> or
>>      > inefficient. There are many workflows and thus code paths that need
>>      > considered. It's a complicated problem to solve.
>>      >
>>      > I've typed up a proposal at [1] that I believe will fulfill the
>>     requirements
>>      > of most of the people who can't use mach today because it isn't
>>     compatible
>>      > with their workflow. Please leave comments on that pad or reply
>>     here with
>>      > suggestions for improvement.
>>      >
>>      > I hope to have a solution landed in the next few weeks.
>>      >
>>      > [1] https://etherpad.mozilla.org/o5igfRCiJv
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