> One idea might be to give developers feedback on the consequences of a > particular push, e.g. the AWS cost, a proxy for "time during which > developers couldn't push" or some other measurable metric. Right now > each push probably "feels" as "expensive" as every other.
For tryserver, I proposed bug 848589 to do just this. I think it's worth trying, but someone needs to implement it. > Nobody's blaming the user. We should just empower them to make better > choices. Okay. I guess what's frustrating to me is that we have this problem and essentially our only option to solve it is to change users' behavior. I totally believe that some people could use resources much more efficiently, but it's frustrating if changing user behavior is our only tool. We keep talking about this every few weeks, as though there's some hidden solution that will emerge only after ten newsgroup threads. In actuality, we very likely will need to do a bunch of different things, each having a small impact. And in particular, I don't think we'll solve this problem without significant work from release engineering. If that work isn't forthcoming, I don't think we're going to make a significant dent in this. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:20 AM, Ehsan Akhgari <ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2013-04-25 1:02 AM, David Ascher wrote: >> >> >> The messaging around this should not be to tell people "always test >> on try". It should be to help them figure out how to make better >> judgement calls on this. This is a skill that people develop and >> are not born with, and without data it's hard an an individual to >> judge how good I'm at that. >> >> >> One idea might be to give developers feedback on the consequences of a >> particular push, e.g. the AWS cost, a proxy for "time during which >> developers couldn't push" or some other measurable metric. Right now >> each push probably "feels" as "expensive" as every other. > > > The AWS cost would be the wrong measure, since it doesn't account for the > amount of time that 100 other people spent grinding their teeth because they > could not push. :-) But yeah, I agree with the general idea of a cost > measure, I just can't think of what a good one would be (well, one better > than the wall-clock time...) > > Ehsan > > _______________________________________________ > dev-platform mailing list > dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform _______________________________________________ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
