Hey gang,

Summary of our discussions:

*Tuesday *
*AM*:
All hands - Plenary session
*PM*:
Fx Plenary session
Team time


*Wednesday*
*AM:*
2017 Planning
11:30am -  Karlof org 2017 planning

*PM:*
nothing planned as of now


*Thursday*

*AM:*
Possible talks with QA

*PM:*
Continuous deployment discussions?
3pm - adavis and cmore elective ;)


*Friday*
How to minimize password resets? Approximately 7% of login attempts results
in a password reset.
Goals: 1- Avoid data loss 2- Make adding another device easier 3- Improve
UX 4- Could maybe help regain access to an account?


--
Alex Davis // Mountain View
Product Manager // FxA & Sync
(415) 769-9247
IRC & Slack: adavis

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Ryan Kelly <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 23/11/16 09:23, Sean McArthur wrote:
> > Much of that all sounds great to me! Should we add these things to the
> > FxA schedule in sched? It looks like most other teams in the Firefox
> > org[1] have sub-tags, I'm not sure what it takes to get
> > https://hawaiiallhands2016.sched.org/overview/type/Firefox/Accounts
>
> I'd like to, but it's not obvious to me whether we can just add events
> to that thing ourselves, or if it's populated based on room reservations
> for the week (which we won't be able to get, because there's no free
> rooms).
>
> In any case, taking a look at the sched, here's the broader shape of the
> week that we need to fit in around:
>
> * Tuesday: plenary in the morning, firefox all-hands in the afternoon,
>            a couple of free hours from 2-5pm.
>
> * Wednesday: ckarlof org 2017 from 11:30 to lunch, electives from 3pm,
>              so no really large chunks of free space.
>
> * Thursday: nothing scheduled for the morning, electives from 3pm
>
> * Friday: free team time for the whole day!
>
>
> So my suggestion for a high-level schedule would be:
>
> * Tuesday afternoon seems like a good opportunity to go do something
>   fun as a team and just enjoy being all together.  The afternoon
>   backs on to free-form Resort Dining time so we could also go to
>   dinner together somewhere nearby.
>
> * Wednesday morning is a good opportunity for 2017 planning and
>   vision-setting, both as a team before-hand, and at the larger
>   session with the rest of :ckarlof's org.  We can pitch ideas and
>   haggle about OKRs and other fun stuff like that.
>
> * That leaves big chunks of time free on Thursday and Friday for
>   hacking sessions or smaller group sessions as mentioned in this
>   thread.  The downside though being that we might be exhausted by
>   the time that rolls around...and might need another out-and-about
>   activity on the Friday afternoon :-P
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>   Ryan
>
> > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:13 PM Alex Davis <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >     +1 for 2017 planning
> >     +100 for fun in the sun :)
> >
> >     --
> >     Alex Davis // Mountain View
> >     Product Manager // FxA & Sync
> >     (415) 769-9247 <tel:(415)%20769-9247>
> >     IRC & Slack: adavis
> >
> >     On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Ryan Kelly <[email protected]
> >     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >         On 23/11/16 06:42, Alex Davis wrote:
> >         > I propose we make a schedule so we can do a few different
> things. I
> >         > don't think we need to limit ourselves. Many things can
> benefit from the
> >         > team getting together.
> >         >
> >         > Here are proposed ideas I suggest we dedicate time to since we
> can get a
> >         > lot of value discussing them as a team:
> >         > - tools and hacks to boost productivity (suggested by Shane) -
> maybe a
> >         > half day
> >         > - meeting with the QA team that will help us moving forward
> (discuss
> >         > process with them) - only 1-2 hrs
> >         > - tackle data loss via password reset (OKR #3) ... might be
> worth
> >         > including Sync team on this one - maybe a full day
> >         >
> >         > Also maybe worth exploring/discussing:
> >         > - release cycle speed
> >
> >         Two other topics I think we should fit into the schedule:
> >
> >         * 2017 and our plans for it; big-picture thinking type stuff.
> >
> >         * (as Shane reminded me just now) Something fun and outdoors
> >           in the sunshine :-)
> >
> >
> >           Cheers,
> >
> >             Ryan
> >
> >         > As per catching up on technical debt, I'm not sure if there is
> any
> >         > benefit in doing it together. (correct me if I am wrong) In
> yesterday's
> >         > retrospective, it was proposed to take time every week for this
> >         > (Fridays). This makes more sense to me. I think it's something
> we should
> >         > do regularly and not just as a one off.
> >         >
> >         > Thoughts?
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > --
> >         > Alex Davis // Mountain View
> >         > Product Manager // FxA & Sync
> >         > (415) 769-9247 <tel:%28415%29%20769-9247>
> >         > IRC & Slack: adavis
> >         >
> >         > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Shane Tomlinson
> >         > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >         <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
> >         wrote:
> >         >
> >         >     Following on from this conversation, albeit somewhat
> >         tangential to
> >         >     "shippable" work.
> >         >
> >         >     One thing I'm interested in learning more about is how
> >         other people
> >         >     work and what
> >         >     tools and hacks they use to boost productivity. For
> >         example, I've
> >         >     been using vim for years,
> >         >     the key sequences I use all the time are burned into my
> >         brain, and I
> >         >     get frustrated when
> >         >     going to a machine that doesn't have all the same keys
> >         mapped and
> >         >     plugins. I've been
> >         >     using Atom for the last week to see whether it can make
> >         certain
> >         >     things easier, and
> >         >     unsurprisingly, it does. I see Vlad and Vijay use
> >         WebStorm, and I'm
> >         >     sure it has
> >         >     some awesomeness too. Another example is both Phil and I
> >         use iTerm,
> >         >     a couple
> >         >     of months ago Phil showed me a "replay" feature that
> >         re-runs the
> >         >     command line
> >         >     history - my head exploded. jrgm pulls out bash foo all
> >         the time
> >         >     that I'm just like
> >         >     "whaaa? That's possible?". Each time I see things like
> >         these, I feel
> >         >     like I'm
> >         >     slightly more productive.
> >         >
> >         >     What other secrets do people have that could make others
> more
> >         >     productive?
> >         >
> >         >     Things I'm personally interested in:
> >         >
> >         >       * Keeping up with the Mozilla Firehose.
> >         >       * Speeding up the dev cycle.
> >         >       * Editors and what they provide.
> >         >           o vim shortcuts, plugins.
> >         >       * Searching/finding snippets.
> >         >       * Writing tests to be more reliable.
> >         >       * Anything related to git.
> >         >       * Searching server logs for problems.
> >         >
> >         >     What can I show? I dunno what's worthwhile to others, is
> there anything
> >         >     others wonder how their teammates approach?
> >         >
> >         >     We might not need a full-on session for this, but if
> anybody has
> >         >     anything they wouldn't
> >         >     mind showing off, you have an audience of at least 1.
> >         >
> >         >     Shane
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >     On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 2:40 AM, Alex Davis <
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >         >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
> wrote:
> >         >
> >         >         Following up on what Ryan and Shane said...
> >         >         Here are a couple of things that might be nice to work
> on with
> >         >         Feeley (if he is around) since it could really help to
> have
> >         >         engineering, product and UX putting their brains
> together at the
> >         >         same time:
> >         >
> >         >           * OKR #3: Reduce likelihood of user losing Sync data
> >         >
> >         >         KR
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >         Rating
> >         >
> >         >         Establish metrics and dashboard for measuring when
> users lose
> >         >         their data.
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >         Reduce voluntary password resets by 20%. 7% → 5.4%
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >         This one seems particularly hard since the challenge of
> >         >         balancing good UX and solid security is a tremendous
> challenge.
> >         >
> >         >           * Get Feeley's proposed reversed sign-up flow up and
> >         running
> >         >             and ready to A/B test.
> >         >
> >         >           * Phase 3-4 of email confirmation flow that we
> >         worked on in
> >         >             Toronto
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >         Just throwing those out there...
> >         >
> >         >         --
> >         >         Alex Davis // Mountain View
> >         >         Product Manager // FxA & Sync
> >         >         (415) 769-9247 <tel:%28415%29%20769-9247>
> >         <tel:%28415%29%20769-9247>
> >         >         IRC & Slack: adavis
> >         >
> >         >         On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Shane Tomlinson
> >         >         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]
> >
> >         <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
> >         wrote:
> >         >
> >         >             I have a not-so-secret-secret (as in, it's not
> secret at
> >         >             all, I talk about it regularly). I take a little
> bit of time
> >         >             every train to pay down technical debt and only
> rarely do I
> >         >             feel that time could be better spent elsewhere.
> FxA is 3
> >         >             years old now and has tons of little niggles.
> Those little
> >         >             niggles can seem like a big burden, so it's nice
> to get rid
> >         >             of them.
> >         >
> >         >             I find paying down debt helps to keep me engaged -
> sometimes
> >         >             a small win is all that's needed to brighten an
> otherwise
> >         >             difficult day. I take pride in the code and enjoy
> making it
> >         >             better, it has become a regular process.
> >         >
> >         >             My idea for maximizing Hawaii is to work on things
> that are
> >         >             easier to coordinate when others are in the room.
> If an item
> >         >             of debt meets that criteria, then yeah, perfect.
> The way my
> >         >             quarter is shaping up, I have a feeling I'm going
> to be
> >         >             bugging people mostly for "connect another device"
> and
> >         >             related tasks.
> >         >
> >         >             Shane
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >             On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Phil Booth
> >         >             <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >         <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> >         >
> >         >                 Oh Vijay, that's a great shout!
> >         >
> >         >                 I have so many open quality issues on the
> back-burner,
> >         >                 which I never seem to make time for but really
> want to
> >         >                 work on. Maybe I'm just bad at prioritising
> stuff but
> >         >                 having some official technical-debt time would
> be
> >         >                 brilliant I reckon.
> >         >
> >         >                 +1
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >                 On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Vijay Budhram
> >         >                 <[email protected] <mailto:
> [email protected]>
> >         <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
> wrote:
> >         >
> >         >                     I think having a focused 2-day hack sprint
> would be
> >         >                     great. However, I have a counter proposal.
> >         >
> >         >                     > What should we try to do
> >         >
> >         >                     I think it would be cool to help reduce
> some of the
> >         >                     technical debt that has accumulated. These
> are
> >         >                     things that we normally don't get to make
> explicit
> >         >                     time for but would make our lives better
> in the long
> >         >                     run.
> >         >
> >         >                     1) More stable testing environments
> >         >                     2) Faster functional tests
> >         >                     3) Migrate projects to Yarn?
> >         >                     4) Build trigger to test entire stack
> against
> >         >                     specific commit in any project
> >         >
> >         >                     I'm sure there are more things that could
> be added
> >         >                     but that is off the top of my head.
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >                     On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:56 PM, Sean
> McArthur
> >         >                     <[email protected] <mailto:
> [email protected]>
> >         >                     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:
> [email protected]>>> wrote:
> >         >
> >         >                         The Hawaii work week is only 3 weeks
> away! We're
> >         >                         starting to see more and more that can
> be part
> >         >                         of our schedule, and we could try to
> plan
> >         >                         something FxA-related that we want to
> get done
> >         >                         that week. With travel days, plenary
> and other
> >         >                         required bigger-org meetings, we could
> have
> >         >                         around 2.5 days to be together and get
> something
> >         >                         done.
> >         >
> >         >                         Would you all be interested in
> planning some
> >         >                         sort of sprint thingy, similar to what
> happened
> >         >                         in Toronto? Maybe we can plan a 2-day
> hack
> >         >                         sprint where on Friday afternoon we
> can show off
> >         >                         a working thing-a-ma-jig.
> >         >
> >         >                         What should we try to do? Should we
> continue on
> >         >                         the idea that was brainstormed in
> Toronto? Or is
> >         >                         there some other small experiment
> someone has
> >         >                         wished we could just make happen with
> some
> >         >                         concentrated effort?
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