On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Andrew Sutherland <asutherl...@asutherland.org> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015, at 09:41 PM, J. Ryan Stinnett wrote: >> At the moment, once a toolbox opens, the toolbox still takes the full >> width of the window, however it no longer goes full height. You can >> resize the toolbox to be as tall as you like. This was done to make it >> more obvious how to continue interacting with the sidebar to change >> apps, etc., but perhaps something else would be better. >> >> I'd suggest trying it out and letting us know how it feels to you. > > It feels a bit awkward currently: > * In order to maximize my inspect/console space, I have to drag the > splitter all the way up, but the splitter has a minimum size for the > sidebar/content area/sidebar so I lose some vertical real-estate and it > looks ugly. > * The sidebars are eating up the content area for the runtime > monitor/permissions table/runtime info/device preferences. I can resize > the sidebars down to nothing and then get them back, but it's definitely > more awkward than the current dropdowns.
Would you prefer having the toolbox be "full screen" in the WebIDE window (the way it appears today without sidebars)? It's easy to make this happens if people would prefer it. It would then cover the sidebars fully, and you'd need to use the wrench icon / close the toolbox to access the sidebars again. We were just worried it would not be clear how to reach the sidebars again once a toolbox appears, but I agree with you that vertical space is wasted as it is for the moment. > Having said that, it's not a huge deal to me, and if there are people > currently experiencing frustration with the dropdowns disappearing on > them or something, I'd certainly err on the side of avoiding that > problem. There were several people displeased with the number of clicks the dropdowns added to their workflow in WebIDE vs. App Manager, so the sidebars are meant to help with that. Also, I think it make things less perplexing for new users, since all the buttons are in front of you from the start, instead of behind mysterious buttons that reveal dropdowns. > I feel like I've heard talk of moving the WebIDE to just be tabs in > Firefox, and that sounds ideal if it means that once I pick an app to > attach to on a specific device endpoint, a tab just opens to debug that > app with just the devtool and it doesn't need to share the screen > real-estate with any of the dropdown stuff. Maybe there could be a > breadcrumb navigation affordance like "[WebIDE] > [Device: Flame] > > [App: Email]". Your dream is coming. :) > PS: I realize it's all a bit complex since these two drop-downs are a > mash-up of the otherwise orthogonal "pick a device, then pick an app / > device info screen" and "project management / editor / IDE" roles. Yes, I think having all the buttons "on the table" at first makes it somewhat less mysterious (for new users at least). - Ryan _______________________________________________ dev-b2g mailing list dev-b2g@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-b2g
