> An alternative approach is to have a release management representative join 
> daily B2G triage *most* of the time. (Say, Mon, Wed, Fri when there is are no 
> channel meetings.) This is definitely a time commitment for the relman team 
> but, if they can swing it, is one way they can contribute to B2G.


We are actually already joining morningly Gaia triage - making the 10:30AM 
Gecko triage conflicts with a number of our scheduled meetings. Regardless, I'm 
not sure it makes sense to evaluate risk to desktop/mobile (the only reason we 
have approvals for blockers right now) during a B2G triage. We'll be reviewing 
approvals on a daily basis as much as possible, as we did with the Fennec 
relaunch.

-Alex

On Oct 10, 2012, at 7:20 AM, Lawrence Mandel <[email protected]> wrote:

>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Justin Lebar <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> Another question/suggestion about this process:
>>> 
>>> Basically any b2g bug will need either approval-aurora or
>>> blocking-basecamp.  Otherwise it's effectively b2g v2 work, and
>>> nobody
>>> is working on v2 at the moment.
>>> 
>>> If I have a bug that's not a basecamp blocker that I'd like to get
>>> into b2g, this means that I have to wait for an Aurora triage
>>> session
>>> before I can land it and have it available on Aurora.  I expect we
>>> will soon modify our main b2g repository to point at mozilla-aurora
>>> instead of mozilla-central (since we won't be shipping
>>> mozilla-central
>>> v19 in b2g v1), which means that no other b2g devs will get my
>>> change
>>> until it lands on Aurora.
>>> 
>>> Will be running mozilla-aurora triage once a day?  Otherwise, how
>>> long
>>> should I expect to wait before I can land non-blockers on
>>> mozilla-aurora?
>>> 
>>> In order to meet our deadline, it's critical that we be able to
>>> share
>>> patches with others quickly.  If I have to wait days to get my
>>> non-basecamp-blocking bugs landed on Aurora, that will slow us down
>>> to
>>> an unacceptable level.
>>> 
>>> We do b2g triage once a day.  If we can't do Aurora triage once a
>>> day,
>>> perhaps we can add a b2g-v1-approval flag which is equivalent to a
>>> fast-tracked aurora-approval flag.  (Even better, b2g-v1-approval
>>> could go on the bug, instead of on the patch, which would further
>>> reduce lag before landing.)
>> 
>> I absolutely agree that we need to have a very quick turnaround time
>> for getting approvals.
>> 
>> One thing that might help is to give aurora-approval powers to
>> everyone that has basecamp-blocking powers. That way we can go
>> through
>> b2g related aurora-approval nominations while we do the normal
>> triage,
>> which happens every day.
> 
> An alternative approach is to have a release management representative join 
> daily B2G triage *most* of the time. (Say, Mon, Wed, Fri when there is are no 
> channel meetings.) This is definitely a time commitment for the relman team 
> but, if they can swing it, is one way they can contribute to B2G.
> 
> Lawrence

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