> Do you mean, mark the /patch/ with approval-mozilla-aurora?

Correct, we should be marking the patch with approval-mozilla-aurora?.

> That means that I basically cannot ask for
> pre-approval, which means that the Aurora triage is always on my
> critical path (whereas basecamp triage is not, because we
> basecamp-blocking+ bugs, not patches).

Yep - we're on your critical path if the patch poses risk to desktop/mobile or 
doesn't have blocking-basecamp+. Otherwise, a=blocking-basecamp.

-Alex

On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Justin Lebar <[email protected]> wrote:

>> I believe this was answered in my original email.
> 
> You're right; I missed this bullet.  Sorry!
> 
>> mark the bug with approval-mozilla-aurora?
> 
> Do you mean, mark the /patch/ with approval-mozilla-aurora?
> 
> This is a big difference from basecamp-blocking in that
> (traditionally, anyway) I must have a reviewed patch before I can ask
> for approval.  That means that I basically cannot ask for
> pre-approval, which means that the Aurora triage is always on my
> critical path (whereas basecamp triage is not, because we
> basecamp-blocking+ bugs, not patches).
> 
> But if you guys are doing Aurora triage at least every 48 hours, that
> may be fast enough; I guess we'll have to see.
> 
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Alex Keybl <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I believe this was answered in my original email.
>> 
>>> * If your bug does not meet the above requirements (or if in doubt), mark 
>>> the bug with approval-mozilla-aurora? as always and fill out the risk 
>>> assessment. These are triaged as quickly as possible (every 1-2 weekdays).
>> 
>> We will triage as quickly as shipping products allow. Feel free to ping 
>> anybody on the release management team to fast track a specific approval.
>> 
>> -Alex
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 8:49 PM, Justin Lebar <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Another question/suggestion about this process:
>>> 
>>> Basically any b2g bug will need either approval-aurora or
>>> blocking-basecamp.  Otherwise it's effectively b2g v2 work, and nobody
>>> is working on v2 at the moment.
>>> 
>>> If I have a bug that's not a basecamp blocker that I'd like to get
>>> into b2g, this means that I have to wait for an Aurora triage session
>>> before I can land it and have it available on Aurora.  I expect we
>>> will soon modify our main b2g repository to point at mozilla-aurora
>>> instead of mozilla-central (since we won't be shipping mozilla-central
>>> v19 in b2g v1), which means that no other b2g devs will get my change
>>> until it lands on Aurora.
>>> 
>>> Will be running mozilla-aurora triage once a day?  Otherwise, how long
>>> should I expect to wait before I can land non-blockers on
>>> mozilla-aurora?
>>> 
>>> In order to meet our deadline, it's critical that we be able to share
>>> patches with others quickly.  If I have to wait days to get my
>>> non-basecamp-blocking bugs landed on Aurora, that will slow us down to
>>> an unacceptable level.
>>> 
>>> We do b2g triage once a day.  If we can't do Aurora triage once a day,
>>> perhaps we can add a b2g-v1-approval flag which is equivalent to a
>>> fast-tracked aurora-approval flag.  (Even better, b2g-v1-approval
>>> could go on the bug, instead of on the patch, which would further
>>> reduce lag before landing.)
>>> 
>>> -Justin
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Alex Keybl <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> [re-sending, looks like formatting was dropped]
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Ehsan,
>>>> 
>>>> Just got done discussing this with drivers. Gecko 18 will be the basis for 
>>>> B2G v1 as things stand today. Here's how things will play out.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> = Landing Process until 11/19, or until told otherwise (mozilla-aurora 18) 
>>>> =
>>>> * Land on mozilla-aurora (a=blocking-basecamp) if your landing:
>>>> ** first landed on m-i/m-c and the build/tests are green
>>>> ** has zero risk to the current desktop/mobile feature set and users 
>>>> (unused API, ifdef'd out, etc.)
>>>> ** is blocking-basecamp+
>>>> ** does not have string/UUID changes
>>>> 
>>>> * If your bug does not meet the above requirements (or if in doubt), mark 
>>>> the bug with approval-mozilla-aurora? as always and fill out the risk 
>>>> assessment. These are triaged as quickly as possible (every 1-2 weekdays).
>>>> 
>>>> * Once landed on mozilla-aurora (standard stuff):
>>>> ** mark status-firefox18:fixed
>>>> ** paste the m-a hg link in the associated bug
>>>> ** watch TBPL and back out the change if the build doesn't go green
>>>> ** back out B2G changes on mozilla-aurora if backed out on mozilla-central 
>>>> for whatever reason
>>>> 
>>>> * We will revoke the quick a=blocking-basecamp landing if it poses major 
>>>> risk to Aurora desktop/mobile users or if devs do not follow the 
>>>> guidelines above. At that point, all landings will first go through 
>>>> approval-mozilla-aurora? triage.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> = Landing Process after 11/19 (mozilla-beta 18) =
>>>> * All landings will be required to go through approval-mozilla-beta? triage
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan will need to move Nightly/Stable builds over to mozilla-aurora 
>>>> from mozilla-central for tonight's build, given the FF18 base. Please let 
>>>> me know if anybody has questions about the above decisions or process.
>>>> 
>>>> -Alex
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Ehsan Akhgari <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Has there been a call on which version of Gecko b2g v1 will be based on?  
>>>>> We need to know whether we can backout bug 722845 on 18 after the uplift 
>>>>> to Aurora until we fix bug 787743 on trunk, and in order to make that 
>>>>> call we need to know whether b2g will be shipping off of Gecko 18 or 
>>>>> trunk (which will be Gecko 19 in about a week), since b2g depends on the 
>>>>> work in bug 722845.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Ehsan
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