I agree.

Give the guys a break. 

At least you can phone them in the meantime.

There are many other providers I use and they only offer support by online
ticket, no phone, no [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internet
W: www.123marbella.com
E : [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Bilbee
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 9:03 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case
management module

Give them a break they, are switching systems and you have found a
glitch/bug/annoyance. Pick up the phone and call them. They are good people
and will honor your support contract.


Kevin Bilbee

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Gary Steiner
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:46 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case 
> management module
> 
> 
> I saw the phone number in the original message, but that doesn't 
> change the rest of the message.  The point is how can a company whose 
> business is email and the internet exclude all forms of communication 
> except for the telephone?  And even an automated message from their 
> [former] support communication method did not come out and say that.  
> What it says is if you haven't heard from them in 24 hours after you 
> have tried to contact them via the web or email, then call them.  It 
> doesn't say anything about flipping switches.
> 
> If they wish to limit all customer communication to the telephone, 
> then why don't they just come out and say "we refuse to talk to any of 
> our customers unless they call us" ?
>  It is Declude's fault for encouraging us to use email as the primary 
> form of communication all this time, and now arbitrarily cutting it 
> off.
> 
> The real question is when we pay for an annual service contract, 
> exactly what are we getting?  Apparently a lot less than we were 
> receiving before August 28th.
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> > From: "Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:57 AM
> > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case 
> > management module
> > 
> > I think it means you have to pick up the phone and call them.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> > Gary Steiner
> > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:12 AM
> > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case 
> > management module
> > 
> > It's a catch-22.  You send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> and get a
> > reply back saying that they will no longer pay attention to
> messages
> > sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > What does it mean when customers have to try to get in touch with 
> > Declude so that they "flip the switch" so that the customer
> can get in
> > touch with Declude?
> > 
> > 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > > From: "Kevin Bilbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:32 PM
> > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> versus new case
> > management module
> > > 
> > > Then I would contact customer service to have them flip
> the switch
> > > so
> > you
> > > can place support tickets.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Kevin
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> > > > Of Gary Steiner
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:17 PM
> > > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus new case 
> > > > management module
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Interesting.  If I log in to my account on the Declude web site, 
> > > > there is no option listed for the new CRM module.  It is not 
> > > > that it is grayed out as described below.  It just isn't there.  
> > > > And I do have a current service agreement.
> > > > 
> > > > So, since according to this message we can no longer use 
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the supposed new CRM module doesn't 
> > > > seem to be available, how do we contact Declude support?
> > > > 
> > > > By the way, the reason I was trying to contact Declude support 
> > > > is that I was investigating the latest all_list.dat file, and 
> > > > found that the download link on the Declude web site is now no 
> > > > longer valid.  (The download link for the Declude GUI didn't 
> > > > work either, as well as the link for the demo copy of Sniffer.)  
> > > > Seems that when Declude updated their web site they forgot to 
> > > > check the one thing on the web site that an existing customer is 
> > > > most likely to use, such as all their download links.
> > > > 
> > > > And they wonder why we get upset.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:44 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: re: [17D-0C9324FF-DB7C] Latest all_list.dat
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank you for submitting a ticket to support. Your
> ticket number
> > is
> > > > > [17D-0C9324FF-DB7C].
> > > > > 
> > > > > Please keep this ticket number for your records and include
> > > > it in the
> > > > > subject (including brackets) of all future emails
> regarding this
> > > > > issue.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The response time during business hours is usually within
> > > > 24 hours, if
> > > > > you have had no response in this time please do not
> > > > hesitate to call
> > > > > our support number 1-866-332-5833
> > > > > 
> > > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE
> > > > > 
> > > > > Declude is migrating to a new CRM business solution which
> > > > includes a
> > > > > new case management module.  We will begin using this feature 
> > > > > beginning the week of 28 August, the result of this action
> > > > means that
> > > > > Declude will no longer accept and create support cases
> > > > using the email
> > > > > address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > 
> > > > > You will need to login into your Declude account to submit
> > > > a case.  If
> > > > > you can not submit a case due to the option being "grayed out"
> > this
> > > > > means that you do not have an active service agreement.
> > > > Call customer
> > > > > care 866-332-5822 #3 to purchase or renew a service agreement.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > We understand that this will be awkward and/or unwanted,
> > > > however our
> > > > > goal is to continue servicing our paying customers.
> > > > >  
> > > > > Thank You.
> > > > > Declude Technical Support
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > > 
> > > > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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