Right, the only way to "talk" to them is through the abuse newsgroup. The problem is that you have to deal with the comments from the millions of other As* Hol** on that group.
I love the comments like "Well just move to another ISP". Yeah right and have to re-configure hundreds of IP addresses in DNS records, ASP, PHP, routing, etc.. :) > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Phillip B. Holmes > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, > overzealous at least) > > > Mark, > > I may be off base here, but I am almost positive that > spews.org offers no way of communicating with people. There > is no way to contact them. > > Regards, > > Phillip B. Holmes > Media Resolutions Inc. > Macromedia Alliance Partner > http://www.mediares.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 1-888-395-4678 > 972-889-0201 > > /* Please send support requests to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ > > Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.--- Chinese Proverb > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Smith > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:38 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, > overzealous at least) > > > Here Here! > > I'm not defending them at all but they really should use > something other then that kiddy farm newsgroup to communicate > with. I really think that's half of their perception problem. > > Of course their guerilla tactics don't help! > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > Phillip B. Holmes > > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:03 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, > > overzealous at least) > > > > > > Well, > > > > Nah, they're incompetent, overzealous and irresponsible. > > Did I say that out loud? > > > > I feel like I did my part. Today we helped convinced > another mid-sized > > provider (http://www.OLM.com) to stop using spews completely. They > > implemented spews on 02/03/03 and by 02/05/03 it was gone. > > However, I can't take all the credit. There were PLENTY of > > ticked off users and admins reading them the riot act. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Phillip B. Holmes > > Media Resolutions Inc. > > Macromedia Alliance Partner > > http://www.mediares.com > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 1-888-395-4678 > > 972-889-0201 > > > > /* Please send support requests to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ > > > > Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.--- > Chinese Proverb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > Colbeck, Andrew > > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:02 PM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, > overzealous at > > least) > > > > > > Check out this article if you haven't already. > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/29159.html > > The link to the Newsgroup message thread for pro vs. con is worth a > read, and includes some gems. > > The short of it is that spews.org often lists a much bigger netblock > than they need to, on the philosophy that users of their system prefer > to not deal at all with an ISP that is receiving income by hosting a > spammer. > > For similar reasons, even though it's a pretty darn big ISP through > acquisitions, my ISP is listed in XBL and BLARS for a very > small number > of spammer infractions. > > I use OSSRC but give it a relatively low weight due to the > likelihood of > throwing the baby out with the bathwater. > > Andrew. > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. 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