Mark,

I may be off base here, but I am almost positive that spews.org offers
no way of communicating with people. There is no way to contact them.

Regards,

Phillip B. Holmes
Media Resolutions Inc.
Macromedia Alliance Partner
http://www.mediares.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:38 AM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, overzealous
at least)


Here Here!

I'm not defending them at all but they really should use something other
then that kiddy farm newsgroup to communicate with. I really think
that's half of their perception problem.

Of course their guerilla tactics don't help!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Phillip B. Holmes
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, 
> overzealous at least)
> 
> 
> Well,
> 
> Nah, they're incompetent, overzealous and irresponsible.
> Did I say that out loud?
> 
> I feel like I did my part. Today we helped convinced another
> mid-sized provider (http://www.OLM.com) to stop using spews 
> completely. They implemented spews on 02/03/03 and by 
> 02/05/03 it was gone. 
> However, I can't take all the credit. There were PLENTY of 
> ticked off users and admins reading them the riot act.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Phillip B. Holmes
> Media Resolutions Inc.
> Macromedia Alliance Partner
> http://www.mediares.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 1-888-395-4678
> 972-889-0201
> 
> /* Please send support requests to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] */
> 
> Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.--- Chinese Proverb
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Colbeck, Andrew
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:02 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, overzealous at
> least)
> 
> 
> Check out this article if you haven't already.
> 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/29159.html

The link to the Newsgroup message thread for pro vs. con is worth a
read, and includes some gems.

The short of it is that spews.org often lists a much bigger netblock
than they need to, on the philosophy that users of their system prefer
to not deal at all with an ISP that is receiving income by hosting a
spammer.

For similar reasons, even though it's a pretty darn big ISP through
acquisitions, my ISP is listed in XBL and BLARS for a very small number
of spammer infractions.

I use OSSRC but give it a relatively low weight due to the likelihood of
throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Andrew.
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