Hello Kevin, back in February we were trying to pin down the problems the ViRGE/MX card was having with the s3virge driver in X v4. Version 4.0.3 has since been released, and the release notes indicate something about the virge mx card was fixed. However, I've just installed 4.0.3 on my computer (Debian version 4.0.3-1 was finalised last week), and sadly, it's crashing just as spectacularly as ever ;) Shall we start the dance again? Drew -- PGP public key available at http://dparsons.webjump.com/drewskey.txt Fingerprint: A110 EAE1 D7D2 8076 5FE0 EC0A B6CE 7041 6412 4E4A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]