Am I correct that there's nothing for me to fix on my end? Thanks! Al
-----Original Message----- From: Jan V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:10 PM To: STEN-CLANTON, ALBERT E; debian-www@lists.debian.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FOLLOWING UP ON SPEECH OUTPUT CRASH ----- Original Message ----- From: "STEN-CLANTON, ALBERT E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <debian-www@lists.debian.org> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 8:24 PM Subject: FOLLOWING UP ON SPEECH OUTPUT CRASH > Greetings! The correspondence below concerns my crashes when trying to use > the Debian site's link to the development tools of the package. More > precisely, it concerns the loss of the speech output from my screen reader, > JAWS, which I use because of my blindness. > -----Original Message----- > From: Freedom Scientific Software Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Suggestion to contact the site] > It is definitely something on the site since at one time it > worked and now it doesn't. Nothing has changed within JAWS. > -----Original Message----- > From: Freedom Scientific Software Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Since JAWS had been working on the web site you mentioned up until a short time > ago something must have changed on the page. You may want to contact the > web site developer to see if it can be resolved as we doubt there is much we > can do from here as far as JAWS is concerned. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jan V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "STEN-CLANTON, ALBERT E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I have had no trouble checking out your site until late last week. > From > > WWW.DEBIAN.ORG, I followed the Packages link, then the link for > viewing > > stable packages. When I tried then to follow the link for the > development > > tools that come in what I presume to be the latest package, my speech > died. > > This happened four times, and I think only once was I able to avoid a > cold > > reboot. (The speech didn't just die there, but wiped out wholesale.) > > > > [snip problems accessing http://packages.debian.org/stable/devel/ with > Jaws] > > This page is 100% valid HTML 4.0 Transitional so I believe the problem > with > this page is its size, it's over 150 kilobytes. > On my pc Jaws isn't responsive either when opening that URL, but after I > tried editing the page locally to make it (a lot) smaller, Jaws ran just > fine. So my guess is that Jaws can't handle pages of this magnitude. > > Maybe you could contact the technical support for Jaws and inform them > on > this bug. > [Sorry for the delay, exams are coming up in a couple of weeks] I did some "research" and have reason to believe that Jaws' crashing is due to the large definition-list (<dl> tag in HTML). When I changed the definition list to an unordered (<ul>-tag) or ordered(<ol>-tag) one and after some replacing (<dt> and <dd> to <li>) Jaws would run just fine. So, to summarize the issue: * The unaltered page gives problems => Jaws uses +- 99% of the CPU and the PC/Jaws is no longer responsive * The page with the definition list removed works flawlessly => the headers/footer are no problem (this doesn't mean that Osamu Aoki's remark isn't valid, but it doesn't solve the crashing of Jaws) * The page with the definition list replaced by 150KB of "Lorem ipsum..." text works just fine => size is not an issue * The page with the definition list replaced by an unordered list works just fine One last possibility is that Internet Explorer (the browser I used to check all this under Windows) has somehow changed with regards to <dl>-rendering and that is causing problems, but I have no knowledge on how Jaws gets it's information from the operating system.
