On Fri Apr 29, 2011 at 14:22:30 +0100, Lesley Binks wrote:
> > ??Let me try again.
> I find that an incredibly condescending thing to say.
I'm sorry you feel that way, I was attempting to clarify
my comment in a more explicit fashion. "Try again" because
I clearly failed to convey my intended message, not because
I believed you were incapable of understanding me.
Either way I'm sorry that it sounded condescending to
yourself or anybody else .
> > ??Over the past few *years* the Debian Women
> > ??project has stagnated; with few additional women joining the
> > ??project.
> I can't comment on why the Debian Women project has stagnated
> in the past few years. I can suggest various reasons why that has
> occurred.
Reasons aside I think it is clear, and regrettable, that it
has. Hopefully that will change.
> So the adoption of a clear anti-harrassment policy at conferences
> is nothing of note? The restarting of the d-w mentoring scheme,
> the continuing progression of some female contributors to DM
> reflects no activity?
>
> Perhaps you think the project isn't doing anything because
> you don't see it.
I'll refer you back to previous messages where it is apparent
that things are starting to pick up again after a lengthy
hiatus.
Some things have happened, momentum was lost, and only now
is this list active again (for example.)
> I would be very surprised if people who are involved in the Debian
> project *don't* mention it on their CVs in some way. A portfolio is
> external proof of ability and that may be useful. I fail to see why
> portfolio building should not be important to both women and men.
Indeed. But there is a difference between:
* I would like to help make the site.
(PS. I will add it to my portfolio.)
* I want a nice portfolio.
(PS. How can I help get claim this project?)
The initial messages were of the first form, your presentation
gave the idea your motivation was more in the direction of the
second form.
Steve
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