I'm sure many of you on the list have already seen this: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post": http://www.itwire.com/content/view/22320/1090/1/0/
And much of the related discussion. I'm surprised there hasn't been discussion about it on this list. How are others feeling about all of this? First, let me say that I've primarily done work with the Ubuntu project these past few years, and became a member of the project about a year and a half ago. I help run Ubuntu Women, am on the Americas Council and spend loads of my free time doing local advocacy through the Ubuntu Local/Community team that I help run. That said, when it comes to packaging, I started out doing work with Debian, and I've stuck with it. I don't contribute a ton (only one package of my own, one co-maintained and head up a Aloith project for LedgerSMB) and am nowhere near being a Developer, but I've worked with some fantastic people over the years and am comfortable continuing to do so. Right now I'm at a place where I'm trying to decide where much of my future time will be spent, both as far as advocacy vs development goes, and Ubuntu vs Debian. So, as for the subject of the email and after related threads on debian-devel, this whole thing has all made me pretty sad. The general culture of the project lately has made me feel uncomfortable and unwelcome. A lot of people on debian-devel are talking about folks being too sensitive, lacking humor, promoting censorship, and not being accepting of other cultures enough to accept their humor. These are all the things that scare me away from most F/OSS projects and lately drawn me to be more involved with ones that have a Code of Conduct (like Ubuntu and LedgerSMB). If the Debian majority really feels and believes these things as a culture, that's fine, maybe the feeling is that the harshness of Debian lately is good for the project and acceptable, but that means I'm not cut out for Debian. I doubt my involvement will ever go beyond continuing to help to maintain a couple packages with some folks in the project I feel safe with, and right now I really don't feel comfortable sending women interested in getting involved with development to Debian. -- Elizabeth Krumbach // Lyz // pleia2 http://www.princessleia.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-women-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
