Jutta Wrage wrote: > > Am 16.08.2005 um 06:06 schrieb Penny Leach: > >>> I don't understand why it 'might hurt people extremely' - it got fixed, >>> people had a discussion about it. Why is that extremely hurtful? > > > Runnng with open eyes around seeing how people always find thousands of > reasons not to have accessibility and nothing have done wrong, might > not influence you? > > A technical discussion about tthat might be interesting. But that kind > of discussion, where you get thousand of arguments including don't use > lynx, why things f´have not to be corrected, is not the right way. > > It is about the way how to handle such concerns. You might fix and > discuss _afterwords_. > > I others feel fine with the situation that one feels as a beggar when > pointing out accessibility issus, that is fine. I for me do not like that.
I need to comment on this because I am not happy with the way that Jutta is taking a specific argument which she had with some people about problems with lynx, which ended in her problems being solved, and using it to imply that Debian Women does not care about people with disabilities. This is patently untrue and I would hate for people in the future to read her archived posts and believe them to actually represent the facts. If I had to guess, I would guess that the Debian Women community would be more than averagely concerned about accessibility of websites and software compared with most FOSS communities. Certainly I know that enough of us have had personal experience with disability, myself included, to consider such things as being very important indeed. As I understand the issue, nobody suggested that people should not use a text browser. The only problem was, briefly, a problem with a particular browser which was (and I assume still is) buggy. My clear understanding is that there are browsers available which are suitable for people with different levels of disability and which are also standards compliant. I don't think we should assume that people with disabilities are unable to use the most appropriate software for their needs, including upgrading to a better browser if necessary. That is like suggesting that they are too stupid to do so, and I know that most if not all of the Debian Women community would never suggest such a thing. If anyone reading this, especially members of the Debian Women community, wants help in working out which software they can best use to suit their individual needs, please ask us about it. We will try to help, and if we don't know the answer immediately we will try to point you in the right direction to find the answer you need. Additionally, if anyone has problems accessing our website, we certainly want to know about it. If anyone would like to be more involved in the Debian Women community or Debian in general but is prevented from doing so because of any kind of accessibility problem that we have control over, we will do our best to help you. Promoting people's constructive involvement in Debian is what we are all about :) Helen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]