-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Hanna, everyone
I have been keeping quiet on this topic so far, because I've been a little worried that my contribution to it would be perhaps coming from a slightly unfair, or too harsh standpoint, but after this email from Hanna I had to jump in: on 15/8/05 10:58 AM Hanna M. Wallach said the following: | To summarise: Debian Women is about integration; let's not forget it. I absolutely agree, one hundred million percent. I think d-w has done a GREAT job making debian a better place, and everyone involved should feel extremely pleased with themselves. I also think that the +ve changes that d-w has made are generally not specific to WOMEN, d-w has made debian a much better place to be for everyone. But! I worry that the point has been missed, as Hanna said. d-w (and again, this is MHO, which probably doesn't stand for much as I'm generally a lurker) should be about people getting involved with debian, and perhaps a stepping stone for that ultimate goal of integration. Not to be place where people are forever sheltered. I'm not trying to cite any particular examples, I don't have any ready to mind, but the overall atmosphere seems slightly worrying to me. I don't want d-w to be a seperatist place. In particular, | I (and many others) believe that making | things easier for women, in the sense of lowering standards is | entirely unconstructive and detrimental. +1 hundred million here too. I would hate to think that d-w creates an atmosphere that encourages people to lower the standard for us lowly women. That seems undeniably counter productive. I hope this doesn't offend anyone or sound harsh or uncaring, but I had to add my +1 to Hanna's point. - - Penny -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFC/891GHUSCqMOwisRAh3XAJ9DI8Rw8T8MpQ46t8R6EhqucmqmKgCeO+IG AtFDylqfYn5vdwzzniPCipk= =bewR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
