Hi Vincent,
Vincent Danjean wrote:
> Le 28/12/2012 22:30, Axel Beckert a écrit :
> > since I switched from FVWM to Awesome as window manager I prefer to use
> > mssh (orphaned, I know) over pconsole for mass interactive SSH
> > sessions. So I actually don't use pconsole that much anymore.
>
> I just discovered with your message these two tools (pconsole and
> mssh). For myself, I'm using clusterssh for similar thing (parallel
> shell access to a group of machines).
Yeah, I tried clusterssh, too. From my point of view it seems to have
the disadvantages of both, mssh and pconsole.
> I think that, before investigating time to maintain several such
> tools (unless some are willing to, of course),
Remember, I'm not orphaning this package. (And I've chosen RFA over O
for a reason: I won't let pconsole in Debian die.)
> the first step would be to list and to compare all such softwares
> (in Debian or not even not yet packaged).
BTDT. All I saw so far seem to have their reason to exist. For me
personally, I use at least three of them, pconsole, mssh and
parallel-ssh (aka pssh). There are also taktuk, mussh, dsh, dish and
those I don't remember anymore.
> Then we should choose which one(s) seem the more maintainable, offer
> the more features, ...
It's not about "more" features, it's about unique features. And the
fact that not all users have the same environment and hence have
different requirements. So the thing which I like with mssh or
pconsole is maybe an annoyance to somebody else. So that person should
be free to use something else.
For me both, pconsole and mssh have unique features which no other
such tool provides:
* pconsole is not only for SSH or remote. You can control arbitrary
terminals, independent of the program running on them, one could be
an SSH session, another one could be a root shell gained via sudo
and another one could be an rsh session or even a session with
several remote logins in a row like with belier. You have a modal
user interface where you dynamically can attach and detach
terminals. And you don't even need X. You can use pconsole on Linux
virtual console or inside screen, too.
* mssh is the only tool I know which provides all SSH session in the
same window and splits them with its internal grid-based
window-manager similar, but simpler than e.g. Terminator. Perfect
for most tiling window managers (at least from my POV).
And I'm sure you'll find such a unique feature for clusterssh, too.
Regards, Axel
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