On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 04:18:19PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Bart Martens (2022-08-26 10:02:16) > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 07:06:01AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > [...] it lacks a detail I find crucial: > > > Explicitly spelling out whether or not images containing non-free bits > > > are official part of Debian or not. Personally I find it obvious that > > > anything that would not be allowed into main also would not be treated > > > as official part of Debian, > > > > I share the same concern as you: Steve's proposal would mean that installers > > containing non-free firmware become official part of Debian. My text does > > not. > > > > > If Bart chose to extend the proposal to include that such media > > > containing non-free bits (although permitted "alongside with the free > > > media) would *not* be considered official part of Debian, then I would > > > endorse the amended proposal. > > > > That would be repeating what's already true. My text includes only things > > that > > I propose to change. So what is off/unofficially today, remains that. It's > > like > > "the name of the project remains Debian". Why would I mention that. > > > > Does this cover your concern? > > It clarifies that my reading matches your intended reading. Thanks!
Haa wonderful. > Unfortunately it does not cover my concern that the text is ambiguous - > i.e. despite intent your choice of words can lead voters to vote for > this text but with varying expectations, which is a very bad situation. What exactly in my text do you mean? > > I still urge you to make explicit what will not change. Perhaps borrow > from Simons text, if you (like me) like that? Simon Richter's text would permit the Debian project to replace the free installer by a non-free one. My text clearly mentions that the free installer is still there. Didn't you prefer the free installer to remain available? > > > - Jonas > > -- > * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt > * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ > > [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private --
