(CC'd to debian-vote due to https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2021/03/msg00224.html)
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 02:53:16PM +0200, Stephan Lachnit wrote: > Obviously the FSF can do whatever they want. They don't *have* to represent > me. But that doesn't mean that I still felt that they did. Maybe you should pay less attention to your "feelings" and more - to the actual work for OSS? Do you have objections e.g. against licenses, issued by FSF? Such criticizm could be logical. Private opinions of the FSF leader (or a board member) - not related with FOSS at all - are private opinions. > Especially when that person was removed just two years ago, for > whatever reason There was no objective reasons and the person wasn't just "removed". RMS stepped down on his own decision (which was an obvious error). > The reason I like free software is that nothing is behind closed doors. Open debian-private@. Or "this is different"? > > There was no apology from RMS "critics", which e.g. improperly quote RMS > > in the case of Minsky "defence" (the blame was itself is a lie). > > Honestly I don't know enough about RMS to argue about that, and I also don't > want to discuss it here. For me, the circumstances are reason enough to call > the FSF out. Maybe you should learn more about facts, before doing any decision for yourself? > no need for conspiracies about cancel culture. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's that it is. (And looking on the sponsors pages it seems to be clear "qui prodest".) > If you don't think Debian is democratic, I urge you to read the Constitution > again [1]. Not every contributor can vote, yes, but I argue that this is > normal. > I can't vacation in a different country and demand the right to vote. People don't just do a vacation in the Debian. They do work. Actual work: not just flaming in the maillists, but package software, fix bugs and so on. > I'll have to back down on the diversity statement, haven't checked various > pages like the CoC [2], I don't see a direct statement on this. I guess > it's fine if someone is against it as long as there are no personal attacks. There is no option. If the technical project is a part of some political statement on my behalf - I should be part of this or leave. > > > Obviously, everyone is free to disagree and can sign the support letter. > > > There is no problem > > > > See above. That's not a problem for you, yes. > > I don't get it. It's a democratic vote. If the vote is in favor of this, then > so > be it. If you disagree with the majority, then disagree. Nobody cares. The simple (not just one) problem is: I did (now, in past) some work for the Debian - but I can't vote. Yet, the project do political decisions on my behalf. Another problem is that people come in Debian to make a free operating system, not for politics. Next time you may vote to support bomb the North Korea. > If you think it's that big of a problem for you, you can leave the project. Sure, I already did (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2021/03/msg00141.html). Lets see how this works...
