On Fri, 13 Dec 2019, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 08:46:35PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Dec 2019, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > > TL;DR: Treating people with respect is hard and very contextual. > > > Choosing to change how you talk about something to make people more > > > comfortable doesn't always mean you were obligated to make that change. > > > Sometimes you're just promoting connection. > > *snip* > > > today I had to write a bunch of mails in my role as one of the listmasters. > > To be honest, I had better things to than doing that.. I want to remember > > *everyone* on list (and of course on all other lists to) to follow our Coc > > [1] > > and the l.d.o additions [2]. Beside of those formal things, I ask you all to > > come down. Please remember, in the end we are just doing some stupid thing > > like a linux distribution here. There are so many more important things > > like > > a technical discussion. > > I don't know if this is what you intended, but it reads to me like you are > saying here that a technical discussion is more important than Martina's > concerns about transphobia in our community and trans people having their > identity denied. > > I disagree and would consider that an unacceptable position for a Debian > listmaster to take. In fact it does not point into *any* of those directions. It means we are doing a technical thing here and *no* discussion should be that emotional.
And it also is meaned in the other direction - no technical discussion is that important that it should hurt any feelings. There are hundreds of things that are more important than Debian. Don't let a discussion over stupid initsystems escalate in a way that people get hurt. Thats what I wanted to say. Alex - Not speaking as listmaster
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