On 07/07/16 16:37, Don Armstrong wrote: > I have no problem acknowledging that we haven't been able to implement > the existing GR, but I don't see the utility of voting to remove the > possibility of ever implementing it.
I agree 100%. > I don't see how we could ever declassify -private without this amendment > as the previous vote had an alternative to declassify mails before 2005 > which failed, [I should note too, that I've attempted on one or two > occasions to go through and declassify -private, but the process > required was far too clunky.] I've only looked at this once but "too clunky" is being far too nice about the process set out in https://www.debian.org/vote/2005/vote_002 - it requires a team to be delegated that then writes a sophisticated automated system which does a load of indexing, natural language parsing, dereferencing, email interfacing, semi-private publication and more email interfacing! I don't think it's implementable in any sensible manner. At the very least, the requirement for the declassification to be automatic needs to be removed because no automatic system is going to adhere to those constraints perfectly. It also couldn't be implemented before December 2008 because there was nothing to implement it on until then, thanks to the amendment. So the new proposed GR is wrong in its preamble to suggest it could have been implemented ten years ago. I feel an attempt should be made to reform that process to something we might stand a chance of implementing, rather than abolish it entirely, but I'm currently unable to second Don's excellent amendments. I beg other DDs to consider them favourably. Hope that explains, -- MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer. In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/