On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 11:43:29AM +1000, Brian May wrote: > >>>>> "Sven" == Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> > Do we really want to go into creating castes of DDs ? > >> > >> No, but it's already happened. Let's move on. > > Sven> I prefer fixing it, now is the right moment to solve it once > Sven> and for all in the right way. > > Just an observation: > > This whole problem seems to be because everyone, from both "sides", is > thinking about the situation in terms of what *they* want or don't > want: > > * I want these flame wars to go away > * I want the mailing lists to become technical content again > * I want Sven to go away and not come back > * I want Sven to stop posting so much > * I want Sven to stop posting inflammatory posts > * I want to be sure these problems don't reoccur > * I want Debian to treat me fairly > * I want Debian to treat developers fairly > * I want Debian to have fare processes to deal with this in the future > * I want ... > * etc > > Some of these may or may not conflict. No particular order. I probably > missed some. > > This strategy is not going to work. Just saying "I want ..." is not > going to convince the other party to change their mind and give it to > you.
Notice that in the above, i said : "i prefer fixing it", and notice the semantic difference between that and "i want". But then maybe we don't speak the same language. I guess none of this matters though, since debian has decided to expulse me anyway, just like they did for Jonathan/Ted Walter, without ever thinking of setting up a procedure to handle expulsion fairly. Sadly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
