>>"Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Branden> On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:06:01PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> I think this is not really a matter of screwing up, this is a >> matter of, in some cases, avoiding the tyranny of the majority; Branden> ...a platitude directly rebutted by the paper to which John Branden> Robinson linked. Except I have not found the paper to be convincing; I think that the underlying assumptions are about mechanisms that are far different from ours, and that this difference is enough to invalidate the conclusion reached. I suggest people read the paper and reach their own conclusions. >> My contention is that there are a number of documents that >> define what the project is; and that we agreed to follow when we >> signed on to the project, and any changes to these documents, which >> cut to the heart of not just the developers, but the whole free >> software community (the DFSG is known as the gating criteria for free >> software far beyond the extents of the project), ought to be signed >> on by _most_ of the developers. Branden> Yes. Anything more than half is "most", by definition. 1. Consisting of the greatest number or quantity; greater in number or quantity than all the rest; nearly all. I meant the nearly all nuance. >> So, supermajorities are, in my opinion, still needed for cases >> where we want a (very) rough consensus, where mere majority ought not >> be the sole criteria for adopting a measure. Branden> consensus Branden> n : agreement of the majority in sentiment or belief [syn: {general agreement> Word games, I see. The common usage, when it comes to making decisions in debian, has been a term closer to unanimity. Branden> Hear, hear. I agree that we should have a rough consensus Branden> before changing such documents. I would have defined rough consensus to be about 90% of the people agreeing. Branden> We just don't need a supermajority to have it. I beg to differ. manoj -- "I love California, I practically grew up in Phoenix." Vice President Dan Quayle Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C