* Tore Anderson > To be able to make the distinction, one would also have to forget about > the mathematical fact that "100%" refer to the whole thing, alternatively > concede that we have always violated the social contract by distributing > "copyrighted works distributable in digital form" (which are not > "software").
* Raul Miller > The whole what? Well, "Debian". Read on.. * Tore Anderson > For Debian to be "100% Free Software", it first must be "100% Software", > right? > > I'm entirely willing to be educated where I'm wrong. * Raul Miller > If Debian is 100% software, does that mean developers can't be a part of > Debian? What about mirror servers? What about mailing lists? What about > passwords? What about licenses? What about printed materials? etc. > Are these not parts of Debian? Are they 100% software? Because of the requirement of being Free Software, I think it rather far-fetched to think of "Debian" as "Debian, the project" in this context. "Debian, the operating system distribution" fits much better - it's the only thing that makes sense to me, at least. > One issue here is that "Debian" is an adjective, and you have to dub > in the noun. Ah, that's probably it. That's one way of reading it I hadn't considered. I considered "Debian" to be the noun, and still do, but at least this makes sense, logically speaking. Thanks. > Also, unfortunately, there was quite a bit of rhetoric aimed against > people -- which probably made some of those people a bit shy about > expressing their views. [Personally, I think rhetoric aimed against > people is wrong -- if the people in question are wrong about something > then it's much more useful to address what they are saying, and the > underlying issues.] No disagreement here. > You undoubtably know this already, but: > > If you like none of the proposals, you can of course propose your own. > Or, if it's not clear to you what you should propose, you can vote for > further discussion if the vote is held before you've made up your mind. I wouldn't know how to word such a proposal, sadly. Fortunately Graham Wilson just pointed me to Bill Allombert's proposal which I think fits the bill. -- Tore Anderson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]